Good, the less we use Zoom the better. Even facebook Messenger is more secure.
Would you suggest organisational video conference meetings of e.g. 25-100 people over Messenger...? There is a niche Zoom is occupying very well.
SpaceX bans Zoom over privacy concerns
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#133"Please use email, text [...]" as an alternative with concern over privacy?
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Apple does the same thing, where they claim iMessage is ETE encrypted, but the keys (so capabilities to read) are stored on their servers.
This is not true. Don't spread FUD. Apple does not have the ability to read your messages. All messages stored on their servers are encrypted with keys that live only on the phone. iMessage doesn't store your decryption keys on Apple's servers unless you opt into iCloud backup which is a whole different service and security concern.
As a user, this is impossible to verify.
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#135Being the Linux geek, I use MS Teams. I even use it with its Linux client, and works astonishingly well. My only 2 grievances with it are: 1. Teams steals focus to make the next message on a group, rather than in the threat ALL THE TIME. Ive been there for a dozen comments because Teams stole cursor focus. 2. Its easy to make an invite to a one-shot room, rather than use an existing room. Doing so loses all history a…
Teams has video conferencing? Wow never knew this and I use Teams often for $WORKPLACE. I find it a bloated mess with little things that don't work very well e.g. opening Word documents opens in a weird HTML editor which stuffs up the formatting of delicate documents. It's so bad I never share things via Teams and just email instead. So not sure if I'd want to try its video conferencing function if it can't get other basic stuff right?
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#136I've found Hangouts to be equal in call quality to Zoom, and it runs entirely in the web browser. The only down side is it consumes a LOT of power, so you need to stay plugged in while you use it.
Consuming a lot of power could be a show stopper for organisations where lots of staff are on older equipment? Zoom works flawlessly even on older hardware.
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No, it doesn't. https://support.apple.com/guide/security/how-imessage-sends-...
Yes, it does. The messages are 'end to end' encrypted in the iMessage service, but then iMessage backs up its encryption key in the iCloud backup service, defeating the point. "If you have iCloud Backup turned on, your backup includes a copy of the key protecting your Messages. This ensures you can recover your Messages if you lose access to iCloud Keychain and your trusted devices." https://support.apple.com/en-us/H…
There’s a good HN thread from earlier this year about that, but basically, you can disable iCloud Backup and enable Messages in the Cloud, so that all of the messages are still backed up and synced between your devices but the keys are not, so that Apple can not read them. Then you can back up to your Mac/PC instead.
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#138Earlier quoted context omitted.
Apple does the same thing, where they claim iMessage is ETE encrypted, but the keys (so capabilities to read) are stored on their servers.
This is not true. Don't spread FUD. Apple does not have the ability to read your messages. All messages stored on their servers are encrypted with keys that live only on the phone. iMessage doesn't store your decryption keys on Apple's servers unless you opt into iCloud backup which is a whole different service and security concern.
Tuxer said "keys," not "your decryption keys." Apple distributes the public keys that each party encrypts their message with, and they route the encrypted messages through their servers. They can trivially eavesdrop on conversations by simply providing a key from a key pair they generate to a participant and reencrypting messages using the other parties' public keys after deciphering the messages.
https://threatpost.com/apple-imessage-open-to-man-in-the-mid...
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#140I've never heard of the Zoom app until about three weeks ago and now I'm reading something about it here on HN almost every day. Why is this company and their app suddenly so popular and so critiqued? I thought the world was Skype, FaceTime, WebEx, that whole cluster of technologies and related applications. Why are the Zoom folks suddenly on the front page everywher?
The ongoing pandemic increses the need for online conversations with 100+ people.