I use it to do my day job. My company blesses its use so these security issues are a side show to get sorted out by Zoom. I need to pay my bills and put food on the table.
Maybe we shouldn’t use Zoom after all
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#62I don't think the average user cares so much about security and privacy as hacker news readers.
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#64Earlier quoted context omitted.
Google Meet seems to work pretty well if you have G Suite: https://gsuite.google.com/products/meet/
Meet is garbage. Video drops a lot and you can’t even tile anything on their apps.
I had a call with Google themselves. There were 3-4 on each side. Not only was the UI so confusing that everyone kept making mistakes, the quality was terrible.
Quality aside, I was just blown away by how terrible the UI design was, especially after using Zoom for months.
I, too, want to give Zoom time to respond to this shitstorm of issues. Hopefully it will be like the FB SDK, and they'll handle it.
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#65I have avoided weighing in on all the talk about Zoom recently. Mostly because I'm an outsider, my company does not use Zoom. However I've used Zoom once or twice, for interviews or in one case working with a friend on a pair programming session. At my company we use teams, slack, skype and discord (yes, really). Heres the thing though; The first time I used Zoom I was actually petrified (as I usually am) that I have…
I have to say that I'm a sinner, I read these articles and think, well, I don't actually care that much, but its good other people do and hopefully zoom improves what they are doing, but it's doing a good job and it's easy for everyone who needs to use it. Heck, my mums using it for virtual meetups wither her friends (all hovering in the 70s age group)
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#66I've seen about 10 different articles against Zoom during the past 3 days. I really don't enjoy using Zoom, but the volume and frequency of criticism is odd. Has anyone figured out where it's coming from?
The press always goes after the top dog. The articles about factory worker conditions are always about Apple, not Acer, even though Acer's are almost surely worse (due to no press scrutiny). Zoom is the top dog in videoconferencing right now, and videoconferencing has grown by a factor of ~1 million in importance over the last three weeks.
Zoom has also pulled a lot of shady crap under the hood, so regardless of their 'top dog' status, they are getting called to the carpet to explain and remedy their bs.
Articles about factory worker conditions these days are about Amazon...
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#67Are 4 letter brand names making our kids stupid? Before Zoom, products had longer names like WebEx, Hangouts and GoToMeeting. Longer names challenge our children to learn how to spell longer, more complex words, even if they are completely made up. “I fear for the children, and therefore recommend that parents and teachers keep their children from using Zoom.” - Doctor quote from some chiropractor
/s Sorry, I had to call it. I expect the headline next week.
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#68The one video chat app alternative no ones talking about because the majority of HNers don’t work in Microsoft shops: Teams, with 44 million DAU.
I really, really liked Sococo (https://www.sococo.com/), which I used at my previous job. The feeling of presence was so key, and not needing to fire up a room and share a link, but instead, just grab a coworker or knock on a door, was so nice.
Wish I saw people talking about this one :-)
I use Zoom at my current job, and it's fine (except that I can never find the mute and share buttons when I need them), but not magical.
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#69Computer illiterates learn a lesson. News at 11.
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#70Zoom works so well, given a lot of us can't work or learn face to face at the moment, I think we just have to work with Zoom constructively. There are equivalent or better solutions in niches but no general solution that really stacks up. Report security issues. Keep them honest. And don't use it for discussions that are potentially highly sensitive - buyer beware. I would much rather use an open technology with FOSS…
> I think we need to give Zoom a bit of space to make things right. They are suddenly under a huge spotlight. People are so divisive and ready to attack. Save your energy for battling bigger problems like staying alive and keeping an income.
They've been under a negative spotlight for a year now because of their poor security - they've had that chance already.