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SpaceX bans Zoom over privacy concerns

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Re: SpaceX bans Zoom over privacy concerns

#52
post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Zoom is a solid piece of software, and the developers are responsive and seem to care. The dodgy things they've been doing suggest otherwise. * Hijacking package preflight script rather than standard package installation mechanism, so their software is installed before the user clicks Install. * Installing a hidden web server without user consent.

That's more about management decisions and unethical developers. It still could be a solid software despite those issues.

Does it matter which part of Zoom is causing the issue? It ends up making it shady either way.

Re: SpaceX bans Zoom over privacy concerns

#53
post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's only available in the paid version, but slack's video conferencing works pretty well.

It works, but it burns through so much CPU your computer will be a gibbering mess. There's some pretty silly inefficiencies going on, for example; if you switch away to another window, they display a small video player while keeping the big one running the background. Each time you switch into screen sharing mode, they drag you back to the app again. If you draw on the screen, someone has screwed up their linear alge…

I regularly have complaints that people can't hear me over my laptop's fan when using slack video conferencing, or jokes about hair driers. Computer is a MBP16.

Seems like they need to get their CPU use under control.

Re: SpaceX bans Zoom over privacy concerns

#54
post #41

Zoom is such a bizarre product. For huge video calls, it tends to perform as well or better than everything else out there. Yet at the same time it literally seems like straight-up malware and seems to violate your trust and privacy left and right every step of the way, even in the installer (!).

Ever used IDA Pro?

Re: SpaceX bans Zoom over privacy concerns

#55
post #42

The rumor that I've heard is that the "security and privacy concerns" are that Boeing has somehow gotten access to their Zoom. I don't know what that means, exactly, but it's at least somewhat more rational than being concerned that facebook is siphoning up the data.

Where did you hear this rumor?

Re: SpaceX bans Zoom over privacy concerns

#56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

which means fuck all.

well that means it's cryptographically superior to the ICQ client I used beginning of the century.

Unfortunately, the threats these days are also probably more sophisticated, and most people weren't using ICQ for sensitive business meetings.

Re: SpaceX bans Zoom over privacy concerns

#57

This is a knee-jerk reaction. Zoom was indirectly sending information to Facebook as part of their Facebook SDK integration to enable login, not directly as part of explicit information gathering. Any app that integrates with the Facebook SDK does this, and they've also patched it already [1]. The supposed root exploit found in Zoom also requires physical, logged-in access to the machine, at which point a Zoom exploi…

> The supposed root exploit found in Zoom also requires physical, logged-in access to the machine, at which point a Zoom exploit is the least of your problems

No, it does not; 9to5Mac is just playing a game of telephone from the original blog post and the actual issue only requires code execution on the machine.

Re: SpaceX bans Zoom over privacy concerns

#58
post #55
post #42

The rumor that I've heard is that the "security and privacy concerns" are that Boeing has somehow gotten access to their Zoom. I don't know what that means, exactly, but it's at least somewhat more rational than being concerned that facebook is siphoning up the data.

Where did you hear this rumor?

I'd like to know that too. Worthy of a downvote until substantiated.

Re: SpaceX bans Zoom over privacy concerns

#60
post #14

As they should, since they're subject to ITAR regulations, and ITAR is not a joke.

Came to say the same thing. Zoom is impossible if you are considered part of the DoD supply chain. Most of the public products are untenable if you need to talk about ITAR projects or about anything considered CUI.

Even if they weren't supplying the DoD with anything, rocket technology is missile technology. (Granted, liquid fueled ICBMs are old-school, but they'd nevertheless still be under ITAR even if they took no government contracts.)
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