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Maybe we shouldn’t use Zoom after all

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Re: Maybe we shouldn’t use Zoom after all

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Post by bryan_w »

Whoever is orchestrating this hitjob against zoom, is doing a bad job of it.

Most people are going to ignore articles like this. After a certain amount of stories, outrage fatigue sets in and people start to see it as a hit piece and dismiss it, no matter how bad it really is.

Re: Maybe we shouldn’t use Zoom after all

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Post by dumbfoundded »

bryan_w wrote: post #3

Whoever is orchestrating this hitjob against zoom, is doing a bad job of it. Most people are going to ignore articles like this. After a certain amount of stories, outrage fatigue sets in and people start to see it as a hit piece and dismiss it, no matter how bad it really is.

No one forced Zoom to do any of the shady things they're doing. The idea of it being a "hitjob" feels silly given all of the article's claims have evidence.

It's simply what you get for going in the spotlight.

That being said, I do feel the tech industry gets more than it's fair share of criticism. Maybe it's just we've become complacent with the ways that other industries abuse their customers.

Re: Maybe we shouldn’t use Zoom after all

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Post by vsareto »

bryan_w wrote: post #3

Whoever is orchestrating this hitjob against zoom, is doing a bad job of it. Most people are going to ignore articles like this. After a certain amount of stories, outrage fatigue sets in and people start to see it as a hit piece and dismiss it, no matter how bad it really is.

Zoom isn't making it difficult to do hit pieces, if this is one

Re: Maybe we shouldn’t use Zoom after all

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Post by y-c-o-m-b »

Reliability goes a long way and Zoom is very reliable, especially considering the recent spike of users.

I value privacy, but I think the jury is still out on this company. They need time to react to the public scolding they're enduring as of late. Hopefully things change for the better and they take security more seriously after this.

EDIT: A word

Re: Maybe we shouldn’t use Zoom after all

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Post by eagsalazar2 »

bryan_w wrote: post #3

Whoever is orchestrating this hitjob against zoom, is doing a bad job of it. Most people are going to ignore articles like this. After a certain amount of stories, outrage fatigue sets in and people start to see it as a hit piece and dismiss it, no matter how bad it really is.

Whoa, dismissing an entire community's POV and concern as manufactured outrage without making any logical case yourself... is a hit job. If you feel like zoom privacy concerns are overblown you need to explain, not just blow it off.

Re: Maybe we shouldn’t use Zoom after all

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Post by dang »

bryan_w wrote: post #3

Whoever is orchestrating this hitjob against zoom, is doing a bad job of it. Most people are going to ignore articles like this. After a certain amount of stories, outrage fatigue sets in and people start to see it as a hit piece and dismiss it, no matter how bad it really is.

I don't think it's a hit job. It's a side effect of the covid crisis, which is itself an instance of the 'major ongoing story' dynamic on internet forums: black hole story attracting all mass. More here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22751116.

In fact, the wave of objections ('why is X taking over HN') is a manifestation of the same dynamic; it's just the second-order version of it. When those get repeated enough, we'll start to hear 'why are complaints about X taking over HN taking over HN'. At that point the dynamic probably does a meltdown into something else.

(I'm not making fun of you or anyone. All these responses are genuine and make sense on an individual level. But the larger patterns are also predictable.)

Re: Maybe we shouldn’t use Zoom after all

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Post by sarakayakomzin »

tetrisgm wrote: post #9

I've seen about 10 different articles against Zoom during the past 3 days. I really don't enjoy using Zoom, but the volume and frequency of criticism is odd. Has anyone figured out where it's coming from?

more people are having to use zoom or other teleconferencing software than at any point in history...should we expect otherwise?
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