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Farmworkers face coronavirus risk: ‘You can’t pick strawberries over Zoom’

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Re: Farmworkers face coronavirus risk: ‘You can’t pick strawberries over Zoom’

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Strawberry pickers typically work very close to one another with hundreds in the same area of a field at once, with lots of trucks as central points to put the fruit, etc. Workers also typically live on caravans near/on the fields in very cramped quarters to save commute time/cost. That could easily be changed to a more distributed method with per-worker wheelbarrows or backpacks, but presumably that would decrease t…

Personally, and I'd hope this is echoed by everyone: I'd rather have less strawberries, that are more expensive, than have strawberries picked by someone who died as a result of contracting COVID-19 in a field whilst they were picking strawberries to earn money to feed themselves/their family.

Words amount to nothing if our wallets won't agree.

Re: Farmworkers face coronavirus risk: ‘You can’t pick strawberries over Zoom’

#23
Well, not yet. Joystick and a little remote device (or something) and maybe one day we will do stuff like this without fully solving machine learning vision type problems.

Please be quiet kids! I'm picking strawberries. Actually, Bobby, come over here. Do you want to play a game while I take a nap?

Re: Farmworkers face coronavirus risk: ‘You can’t pick strawberries over Zoom’

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You don't catch anything from a strawberry. This job is fundamentally no different from others, and way safer than for instance fast-food-window worker.

These farm workers live in bunk houses basically and are trucked in on school buses. Most of them are migrant laborers or undocumented immigrants. Those conditions are not safe.

Don't do that then.

Maybe we should pay more for strawberries and treat workers better?

Re: Farmworkers face coronavirus risk: ‘You can’t pick strawberries over Zoom’

#25
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You don't catch anything from a strawberry. This job is fundamentally no different from others, and way safer than for instance fast-food-window worker.

This is one of the more dismissive and ignorant comments I’ve ever seen in HN. Do you have some subject matter expertise or was this just intuition?

I think OP's comment was more highlighting how dumb the article title is.

Re: Farmworkers face coronavirus risk: ‘You can’t pick strawberries over Zoom’

#26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Personally, and I'd hope this is echoed by everyone: I'd rather have less strawberries, that are more expensive, than have strawberries picked by someone who died as a result of contracting COVID-19 in a field whilst they were picking strawberries to earn money to feed themselves/their family.

Everybody says this, and then proceeds to buy the cheapest, most convenient products possible.

Maybe they are advocating companies pay the liability, raising the price and incentivizing safer practices. Without some kind of labeling laws saying how many estimated to die per strawberry, you’d have to do a research project on every brand.

Re: Farmworkers face coronavirus risk: ‘You can’t pick strawberries over Zoom’

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post #3

You don't catch anything from a strawberry. This job is fundamentally no different from others, and way safer than for instance fast-food-window worker.

These farm workers live in bunk houses basically and are trucked in on school buses. Most of them are migrant laborers or undocumented immigrants. Those conditions are not safe.

There's a big difference between "the job can't be done safely" and "the way the job was done previously wouldn't be safe if they continue doing it that way".

There's literally no step in "picking strawberries" that can't be done while maintaining social distancing. It will increase the cost of labor, and force humans to be treated like... humans. But farming isn't inherently unsafe re: coronavirus.

Re: Farmworkers face coronavirus risk: ‘You can’t pick strawberries over Zoom’

#28
Planet Money did a good podcast on this topic recently. I learned that it's hard to follow CDC guidelines when you're sleeping 20 in a garage and there's only enough water to shower every few days.

https://www.npr.org/2020/03/25/821593542/episode-984-food-an...

Re: Farmworkers face coronavirus risk: ‘You can’t pick strawberries over Zoom’

#29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Strawberry pickers typically work very close to one another with hundreds in the same area of a field at once, with lots of trucks as central points to put the fruit, etc. Workers also typically live on caravans near/on the fields in very cramped quarters to save commute time/cost. That could easily be changed to a more distributed method with per-worker wheelbarrows or backpacks, but presumably that would decrease t…

Personally, and I'd hope this is echoed by everyone: I'd rather have less strawberries, that are more expensive, than have strawberries picked by someone who died as a result of contracting COVID-19 in a field whilst they were picking strawberries to earn money to feed themselves/their family.

So when shopping... how do you translate that goal into which products to purchase?

Re: Farmworkers face coronavirus risk: ‘You can’t pick strawberries over Zoom’

#30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Personally, and I'd hope this is echoed by everyone: I'd rather have less strawberries, that are more expensive, than have strawberries picked by someone who died as a result of contracting COVID-19 in a field whilst they were picking strawberries to earn money to feed themselves/their family.

Everybody says this, and then proceeds to buy the cheapest, most convenient products possible.

Not everyone; Farmers' markets and CSAs are available, and often quite popular. That said, this is where regulation comes in.
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