Right now I use Apple's "Send Unknown Numbers To Voicemail" feature and dear lord it has saved my life.
Will be nice to go a step further.
FCC will require phone carriers to authenticate calls by June 2021 [pdf]
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#222Earlier quoted context omitted.
Also, I'd hope they'd have the initiative to leave both a voicemail and an SMS.
Especially with a service like Google Voice that will transcribe your voicemails. I will look at those; it takes a fraction of a second to dismiss the spam. Fortunately, I only get a few of those a week, so far.
Check your spam folder. I find Google voice itself is pretty good at blocking spam calls/messages/texts.
Re: FCC will require phone carriers to authenticate calls by June 2021 [pdf]
#223and all it took was a pandemic
is there any reason to believe this is anything other than the next step in a long, slow-moving process? SHAKEN/STIR has been being rolled out for a few years now, IIRC most major players said they were going to have it deployed by the end 2019 (see response column of table towards the bottom of https://www.fcc.gov/call-authentication), now they're just setting a deadline of June 2021 to start authenticating calls.
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#224Good. But really, why did this take this long? It should be relatively easy to identify the bad actors here and I don't mean the spammers, I mean the telcos that make this possible, deliberately so, by essentially "laundering" spam calls. My response to picking up a number is to answer the call and say nothing. Auto-dial systems will route the call to a person when they get a "live" response. I don't know the criteri…
um... cuz they get paid per call. So, just like ISP guys or Google or anyone else who is happy to irritate the fuck out of you for $.0001 per whatever useless crap that yields one in a million sales of some crap people don't need.
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#225Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why is this problem unique to the USA? Every time this topic comes up on HN, someone asks that same question. Then there's a bunch of responses that are lots of suppositions. Then several people from small European countries chime in saying they've never had a spam call. Then a bunch of Europeans from large countries show up saying they get spam calls, too, and it's not just an American thing. "Why is this problem un…
Oh, I can actually weigh in here. In the past ten years, I've spent significant amounts of time in the US, France and the UK. In the UK, I get the occasional spam call ("I'm calling with regards to the recent accident that wasn't your fault..."). At its peak, I got about one such call per week. It's been months since I've had a spam call. In France, I got zero. In the 7 years I lived there, I got exactly zero. Every…
In New Zealand many people get 1-2 per day, often using UK numbers (+44)
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#228Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why it took so long to get all the participants in a federated network to adopt a new protocol? If that were easy we would have solved email spam too, 20 years ago.
and indeed gmail has fixed email spam for almost 20 years.
Spam filtering is based on the content of email. To translate this (partial) success to phones, we'd have to let a private 3rd party monitor phone conversations, record them on its server indefinitely for training their AI, and screen them for us based on what the caller is actually saying to us.
Re: FCC will require phone carriers to authenticate calls by June 2021 [pdf]
#229Why is this problem unique to the USA? I'm not saying I never get spam calls, but I certainly have to scroll back quite a bit in my phone call history to see the last one. Also, on the rare occasion I do get a spam call it's always from some random international country like South Sudan or Oman that I would never expect a phone call from. What makes this problem uniquely hard to solve for the USA as opposed to anywhe…
Why is this problem unique to the USA? Every time this topic comes up on HN, someone asks that same question. Then there's a bunch of responses that are lots of suppositions. Then several people from small European countries chime in saying they've never had a spam call. Then a bunch of Europeans from large countries show up saying they get spam calls, too, and it's not just an American thing. "Why is this problem un…
Um..
The problem described in https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22742976
Is precisely why US get so many Spam calls, and very little in many other developed countries on earth.
And judging from that, it is also no wonder why SMS passcode hijacking is much common in US as compared to many other places.
It reality it really is an US thing, much like how rest of the world have public health care ( Good or not ), and it wasn't until ObamaCare did rest of the world realise public health services is not a standard practice in the wealthiest nation on earth.
Re: FCC will require phone carriers to authenticate calls by June 2021 [pdf]
#230Good. But really, why did this take this long? It should be relatively easy to identify the bad actors here and I don't mean the spammers, I mean the telcos that make this possible, deliberately so, by essentially "laundering" spam calls. My response to picking up a number is to answer the call and say nothing. Auto-dial systems will route the call to a person when they get a "live" response. I don't know the criteri…
>> A human calling will wonder what is happening and fill the silence by saying something. A machine will not.
I've encountered robots in the last 6 months that have started with "Hello?" when I didn't say anthing. It tripped up my Turing Test at first, but eventually hit an ALICEBot-like moment that crashed the whole thing down.