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FCC will require phone carriers to authenticate calls by June 2021 [pdf]

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Re: FCC will require phone carriers to authenticate calls by June 2021 [pdf]

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Post by texasbigdata »

grahamburger wrote: post #18
SketchySeaBeast wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm struggling with the decision of whether to automatically block anyone not in my contact list and leave a message in my voicemail explaining why. Don't want to be unfriendly, but it's only getting more ridiculous.

Recent versions of Android have an option to automatically screen callers who are not in your contact list. The caller gets a robot asking them why they're calling, and you can view the transcript of their response in real time and decide whether or not to answer.

It's nice but buggy!

Re: FCC will require phone carriers to authenticate calls by June 2021 [pdf]

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Post by jeremyjh »

negus wrote: post #139

It is bad news for the US citizens indeed. Unauthenticated phone number is the last island of privacy in our modern world. Think about it: from some point all citizens will carry a geolocation tracking device that is directly linked with their ID. The internet access will also be bound to your ID and so on. There are better ways to fight spam that do not pose a treat to privacy -- think about email or Facebook. There…

No. Per TFA: STIR/SHAKEN enables phone companies to verify that the caller ID information transmitted with a call matches the caller’s phone number.

Re: FCC will require phone carriers to authenticate calls by June 2021 [pdf]

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Post by evan_ »

manigandham wrote: post #123
0xff00ffee wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

After 15 years of cell phone spam, anything that shows up as a number on my personal phone, and not a contact, is reflexively ignored. I don't think I'll ever shake this habit: if it is important, they will leave a message.

This is now a feature on both iOS and Android to mute incoming calls that are not a contact. Voicemails still work fine, and with automatic transcription and all the other digital channels still open, there's no real reason to worry about anonymous calls anymore.

Yeah this worked really well for me until the county health department called from an unknown number to tell me my child had been exposed to COVID-19.

Re: FCC will require phone carriers to authenticate calls by June 2021 [pdf]

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Post by beervirus »

negus wrote: post #139

It is bad news for the US citizens indeed. Unauthenticated phone number is the last island of privacy in our modern world. Think about it: from some point all citizens will carry a geolocation tracking device that is directly linked with their ID. The internet access will also be bound to your ID and so on. There are better ways to fight spam that do not pose a treat to privacy -- think about email or Facebook. There…

No one except robocallers uses this “feature” anyway.

Re: FCC will require phone carriers to authenticate calls by June 2021 [pdf]

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Post by mehrdadn »

Can someone explain what this will translate into in terms of the end-user experience? For one thing, authentication will be next to useless (at least to me) if my phone is still going to ring. So does that mean it's not going to ring for a spoofed number? Also, if it results in tons of voicemail then that's still going to be quite annoying. (How) is the actual end-user experience going to be addressed?

Re: FCC will require phone carriers to authenticate calls by June 2021 [pdf]

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Post by negus »

jeremyjh wrote: post #142
negus wrote: post #139

It is bad news for the US citizens indeed. Unauthenticated phone number is the last island of privacy in our modern world. Think about it: from some point all citizens will carry a geolocation tracking device that is directly linked with their ID. The internet access will also be bound to your ID and so on. There are better ways to fight spam that do not pose a treat to privacy -- think about email or Facebook. There…

No. Per TFA: STIR/SHAKEN enables phone companies to verify that the caller ID information transmitted with a call matches the caller’s phone number.

Well, I misunderstood the point. Thanks for the clarification

Re: FCC will require phone carriers to authenticate calls by June 2021 [pdf]

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Post by gumby »

munk-a wrote: post #127
jrimbault wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've pushed that reflex further : if it's important, the information will find its way to me.

I just wish various Doctors and Dentists could jump on the text/email bandwagon. Those two groups are responsible for nearly all of my phone usage - with a slim minority (that is itself mostly spam) being calls from my bank.

They are subject to HIPAA comstraints.

Re: FCC will require phone carriers to authenticate calls by June 2021 [pdf]

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Post by gumby »

gruez wrote: post #112
penagwin wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While this is a possible scenario- in my experience most people know to call multiple times - especially if they know that the recipient won’t recognize the number. I don’t usually answer my phone from unknown numbers, but when I get three calls from the same number within 3 minutes I’ll pick it up.

>While this is a possible scenario- in my experience most people know to call multiple times - especially if they know that the recipient won’t recognize the number. I'm surprised robocallers don't do this too

They do

Re: FCC will require phone carriers to authenticate calls by June 2021 [pdf]

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Post by dvtrn »

penagwin wrote: post #99
alharith wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Hi jimmy, this is your mother. My phone died so I am calling you from the hospital phone. Your dad is in the hospital. Come quick." In the above scenario that happened to me, sometimes you just don't have time to let the information find you.

While this is a possible scenario- in my experience most people know to call multiple times - especially if they know that the recipient won’t recognize the number. I don’t usually answer my phone from unknown numbers, but when I get three calls from the same number within 3 minutes I’ll pick it up.

I’m not getting into ALL the details but the “repeatedly calling” back and forth between two numbers quite honestly kept me out of jail overseas due to an embarrassing miscommunication and unintended breaking of a local law (backpacking in college, drinks were had, a friend made an ass out of himself if you must know)

I called a local friend, he didn’t answer. I called his wife she didn’t either. Both follow the “don’t answer unknown numbers” rule. As do I.

It wasn’t until I called friend a second time that he answered the phone. His response? “When my wife got a call from the same number back to back is when I started thinking this must be worth my attention.”

Re: FCC will require phone carriers to authenticate calls by June 2021 [pdf]

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Post by dheera »

0xff00ffee wrote: post #10
mulmen wrote: post #3

Does this mean I can start answering my phone again? Are there other vectors for spam calling which are not addressed by this solution?

After 15 years of cell phone spam, anything that shows up as a number on my personal phone, and not a contact, is reflexively ignored. I don't think I'll ever shake this habit: if it is important, they will leave a message.

I actually block all calls unless they are scheduled in advance, with the exception of SO/family
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