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FCC will require phone carriers to authenticate calls by June 2021 [pdf]

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Re: FCC will require phone carriers to authenticate calls by June 2021 [pdf]

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post #107

Finally, although there are still more than a year to wait. Hope there won't be any extension to this deadline. Before that, I'll keep allowing calls from my contacts only, and bear the miserable inconvenience that sometime my packages may take a month to arrive because of denials of calls from the delivery guy.

There is in fact an extension for small providers who say they need more time.

Re: FCC will require phone carriers to authenticate calls by June 2021 [pdf]

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"Hi jimmy, this is your mother. My phone died so I am calling you from the hospital phone. Your dad is in the hospital. Come quick." In the above scenario that happened to me, sometimes you just don't have time to let the information find you.

While this is a possible scenario- in my experience most people know to call multiple times - especially if they know that the recipient won’t recognize the number. I don’t usually answer my phone from unknown numbers, but when I get three calls from the same number within 3 minutes I’ll pick it up.

>While this is a possible scenario- in my experience most people know to call multiple times - especially if they know that the recipient won’t recognize the number.

I'm surprised robocallers don't do this too

Re: FCC will require phone carriers to authenticate calls by June 2021 [pdf]

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Why is this problem unique to the USA? I'm not saying I never get spam calls, but I certainly have to scroll back quite a bit in my phone call history to see the last one. Also, on the rare occasion I do get a spam call it's always from some random international country like South Sudan or Oman that I would never expect a phone call from. What makes this problem uniquely hard to solve for the USA as opposed to anywhe…

Having lived in the UK and now the US, the problem is definitely more pronounced over here. In the UK I was receiving a spam call maybe once a week at most. In the US I was getting about 2-3 a week on a pretty new number before blocking all unknown calls.

I assume it's simply more worthwhile to create a fraudulent scheme aimed at a larger population with more potential marks.

Re: FCC will require phone carriers to authenticate calls by June 2021 [pdf]

#114

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What do you use for an ID? Passport card? State issued ID?

It's generally a bad idea to carry your passport around just because it has your SSN printed on it

this is not true. but if you need to carry around proof of passport there is a passport card you can get for North American travel only.

Re: FCC will require phone carriers to authenticate calls by June 2021 [pdf]

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post #36

90% of my phone calls are from the same outfit informing me that this is my last chance to renew the extended warranty on my car. Based on my call history that recording is officially my best friend. And a very forgiving one given that it has been my last chance hundreds of times over the past several years. I hope this regulation won't interfere with our relationship.

100% of the spam calls on my work phone in the last six months have been trying to sell me Marriott time shares. I don't know if it's actually Marriott or not. I suspect it's just one of those "affiliate marketing" scumbags, but it still makes the brand look bad.

It's not Marriott. I feel a little bad for the big hotel chains whose names are used by telemarketing scammers because their reputations get tarnished.

Re: FCC will require phone carriers to authenticate calls by June 2021 [pdf]

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What do you use for an ID? Passport card? State issued ID?

A non-driver's state ID works for everything you'd use a driver's license for except operating a motor vehicle. Even though people typically say, "Driver's license" when they really mean either kind of state-issued ID card.

Isn't a driver's license nearly as easy to renew as a non-driving state ID? I don't see the point, even if you only need to rent a car on rare instances.

Re: FCC will require phone carriers to authenticate calls by June 2021 [pdf]

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post #3

Does this mean I can start answering my phone again? Are there other vectors for spam calling which are not addressed by this solution?

After 15 years of cell phone spam, anything that shows up as a number on my personal phone, and not a contact, is reflexively ignored. I don't think I'll ever shake this habit: if it is important, they will leave a message.

If it’s important, they can text me. I ain’t listening to voice mail. Eww, what is this, the Middle Ages?

Re: FCC will require phone carriers to authenticate calls by June 2021 [pdf]

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The issue is when I have a automated answering system (asterisk, for a museum). It rattles off some prerecorded info, possibly with prompting. To talk to a human, I need to forward the caller (I.e. call and set up a voice bridge since the caller is already connected to me) to one of our volunteers, which will be to their cell phone (we are a railway museum and we don't have a staffed office on weekdays). I want to fo…

This should still be available, though it will likely take some work from the underlying software provider to be compliant. The goal of the regulation is to cut down spam/scam calling, not legitimate uses, and the telecom providers know these uses and lobby heavily to make sure they'll still be allowed to work. The telecom providers don't like scam calls either, or more specifically they don't like short calls. All t…

How will it still be available and what underlying software work in Asterisk is being referred to?

Based on the given situation, the museum won't own the caller's cell phone number that they're trying to legitimately spoof for their staff's cell phone.

Re: FCC will require phone carriers to authenticate calls by June 2021 [pdf]

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After 15 years of cell phone spam, anything that shows up as a number on my personal phone, and not a contact, is reflexively ignored. I don't think I'll ever shake this habit: if it is important, they will leave a message.

I've pushed that reflex further : if it's important, the information will find its way to me.

Yup, my voicemail box is constantly full of spam messages to the point where, my voicemail's regularly full, I couldn't be bothered to listen to any of them any more and it's too much effort to clean it out. My last carrier used to send a text if I got a voicemail. If I got a text saying I got a voicemail from someone I knew, I'd call back, if it was a random number, I'd just delete the text.

Re: FCC will require phone carriers to authenticate calls by June 2021 [pdf]

#120

Why is this problem unique to the USA? I'm not saying I never get spam calls, but I certainly have to scroll back quite a bit in my phone call history to see the last one. Also, on the rare occasion I do get a spam call it's always from some random international country like South Sudan or Oman that I would never expect a phone call from. What makes this problem uniquely hard to solve for the USA as opposed to anywhe…

I guess I'll be the one to go against the grain here: I might have received 2-3 spam calls in the last year, here in the US. This implies that most spam callers aren't simply dialing random numbers, they're getting lists from somewhere, and by luck or by care my number hasn't ended up on their lists.
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