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Ok this is it... I was able to disinstall it with $ brew cask install zoomus $ brew cask uninstall zoomus so long and thank you for all the fish... Zoom
You can also use “brew cask zap zoomus” to remove preference files, browser plugins, logs.
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Best zoom alternative?
Jitsi, Google Meet, bigbluebutton -- anything can runs in a browser tab and is more or less confined within it.
I think this also shows how macOS has been training users to enter their password in random dialogs that have absolutely nothing that identifies them as being legit OS dialogs. The dialog that Zoom uses could very well be sending the credentials to a remote server, and the user would be none the wiser.
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sunova.... I couldn't find the web based version...That's what frustrated me about zoom compared to webex. I could use Weber in the browser and zoom had to be installed
It's gated behind a fallback after three "failed" attempts at clicking on the link to open the app after opening a meeting URL, or a meeting setting. So, not on by default, seems to be unable to join audio unless you use Chrome, and shows a single video only.
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In fact, if you change URL from /j/CONFERENCE_NUMBER to /wc/join/CONFERENCE_NUMBER you won't be needing to wait for that link.
There is also a browser plugin a saw floating by a couple of days ago that would just enforce this step, but can't find it anymore.
Zoom's got a tradition of being, let's put it like this, way too clever for everyone's own good. See previous “lets install a server on this Mac that is not removed when you uninstall the app and leaves your camera open to the entire internet” for more examples. I use it on a VM, I suggest you do it too.
Best zoom alternative?
I think this also shows how macOS has been training users to enter their password in random dialogs that have absolutely nothing that identifies them as being legit OS dialogs. The dialog that Zoom uses could very well be sending the credentials to a remote server, and the user would be none the wiser.
One could say the same for gksudo, UAC prompts, or the equivalent dialog on your favorite operating system, no? Or is there something on other OSes that identifies it?
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You can also use “brew cask zap zoomus” to remove preference files, browser plugins, logs.
Does this also work for non-brew installs?
Note: I have contributed casks to Homebrew Cask before.
1) If Zoom can do this then it's a MacOS security bug. 2) UX matters. Users don't care about the technical details, they want a smooth experience and that can be the difference between a billion-dollar business or a failed startup. And yes the desktop version is more stable than the web-based UI. 3) Malware is defined by what it does, not how it's installed.
> 3) Malware is defined by what it does, not how it's installed. Well, from the tweet thread: > If the App is already installed but the current user is not admin, they use a helper tool called "zoomAutenticationTool" [sic] and the AuthorizationExecuteWithPrivileges API to spawn a password prompt identifying as "System" (!!) to gain root (including a typo).
Dropbox (used to?) patch system files to integrate with Office better, and that wasn't considered malware either.