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FCC will require phone carriers to authenticate calls by June 2021 [pdf]

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#101

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What do you use for an ID? Passport card? State issued ID?

It's generally a bad idea to carry your passport around just because it has your SSN printed on it

US passports do not have SSNs printed on them.

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#102

I don't think SHAKEN/STIR will stop robocalls, because the economics won't change. It's too easy for foreign robocalls to cycle numbers once one gets blocked. It will help with impersonation, but I don't believe it will significantly decrease robocall volume. I think the telecommunications world will need to adopt whitelisting instead of blacklisting. I run a whitelist-based robocall blocking service called CallStop…

How do you get a new US phone number? (I'll likely block anything from outside the US if authentication happens.)

You don't, you just forward your current number to protect it.

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#103
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90% of my phone calls are from the same outfit informing me that this is my last chance to renew the extended warranty on my car. Based on my call history that recording is officially my best friend. And a very forgiving one given that it has been my last chance hundreds of times over the past several years. I hope this regulation won't interfere with our relationship.

I let the call go through once just to see what kind of extended warranty they were willing to give me on a '93 Ranger with 250,000 miles.

I even hit them with "But YOU called ME with this extremely urgent notification! It's my last chance, you gotta help me!", but sadly I couldn't get her to give me a quote.

Re: FCC will require phone carriers to authenticate calls by June 2021 [pdf]

#104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you use for an ID? Passport card? State issued ID?

It's generally a bad idea to carry your passport around just because it has your SSN printed on it

No, it's generally a bad idea to carry it around in a foreign country when you don't need it that day, as having it pickpocketed would suck.

Having it pickpocketed in the US would be far less of a headache, minus lacking an ID for a few weeks.

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90% of my phone calls are from the same outfit informing me that this is my last chance to renew the extended warranty on my car. Based on my call history that recording is officially my best friend. And a very forgiving one given that it has been my last chance hundreds of times over the past several years. I hope this regulation won't interfere with our relationship.

100% of the spam calls on my work phone in the last six months have been trying to sell me Marriott time shares. I don't know if it's actually Marriott or not. I suspect it's just one of those "affiliate marketing" scumbags, but it still makes the brand look bad.

I get these on a semi weekly basis!

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#107
Finally, although there are still more than a year to wait. Hope there won't be any extension to this deadline.

Before that, I'll keep allowing calls from my contacts only, and bear the miserable inconvenience that sometime my packages may take a month to arrive because of denials of calls from the delivery guy.

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#108
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Kind of curious why it took so long. Spoofed calls for fraud, swatting, etc. have been around for at least ten years.

There are three big issues. Robocalls and spam were not as severe an issue until relatively recently. Political robocalls in the US are an important part of how some politicians get elected and raise funds. And these solutions cost a non trivial amount of money, without increasing revenue directly.

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#109

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In Sweden telephone operators can be forbidden from let spam categorized numbers reach you. That and you know.. breaking the law has actual consequences for both spammers and telcos.

Same in Greece, I think it's EU-wide. When you tell a spammer you're registered in our do-not-call registry, they get scared pretty quickly and swear they'll never call again. They usually don't.

The US has had a do-not-call registry for 17 years. It still doesn't deter spammers who are not subject to US law.

Back in the early 2000's I remember doing the same thing you're describing: startling spammers by telling them that I was on the list. But today, the people calling don't care because they aren't inside of the US.

Re: FCC will require phone carriers to authenticate calls by June 2021 [pdf]

#110
post #36

90% of my phone calls are from the same outfit informing me that this is my last chance to renew the extended warranty on my car. Based on my call history that recording is officially my best friend. And a very forgiving one given that it has been my last chance hundreds of times over the past several years. I hope this regulation won't interfere with our relationship.

Well we really wouldn't want you to miss out on this opportunity to get that warranty. Were here when we call you.
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