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FCC will require phone carriers to authenticate calls by June 2021 [pdf]

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post #21

For those who don't live in the US, this entertaining video by John Oliver might give some context: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FO0iG_P0P6M

Ironically, the video is only available in the US.

Had to hop onto my VPN to view.

Edit: Ok, at least not viewable in the UK!

Re: FCC will require phone carriers to authenticate calls by June 2021 [pdf]

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post #71

Is this now just a problem on mobile phones in the USA now that we have the no call list legislation?

Is this now just a problem on mobile phones in the USA now that we have the no call list legislation?

The Do Not Call list has been around for almost 30 years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Do_not_call_list

Re: FCC will require phone carriers to authenticate calls by June 2021 [pdf]

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post #36

90% of my phone calls are from the same outfit informing me that this is my last chance to renew the extended warranty on my car. Based on my call history that recording is officially my best friend. And a very forgiving one given that it has been my last chance hundreds of times over the past several years. I hope this regulation won't interfere with our relationship.

> the same outfit informing me that this is my last chance to renew the extended warranty on my car I get this too. Which is great, my being a New Yorker who hasn’t had a driver’s license for close to a decade.

What do you use for an ID? Passport card? State issued ID?

Re: FCC will require phone carriers to authenticate calls by June 2021 [pdf]

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> the same outfit informing me that this is my last chance to renew the extended warranty on my car I get this too. Which is great, my being a New Yorker who hasn’t had a driver’s license for close to a decade.

What do you use for an ID? Passport card? State issued ID?

> State issued ID?

This.

Re: FCC will require phone carriers to authenticate calls by June 2021 [pdf]

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> the same outfit informing me that this is my last chance to renew the extended warranty on my car I get this too. Which is great, my being a New Yorker who hasn’t had a driver’s license for close to a decade.

What do you use for an ID? Passport card? State issued ID?

A non-driver's state ID works for everything you'd use a driver's license for except operating a motor vehicle. Even though people typically say, "Driver's license" when they really mean either kind of state-issued ID card.

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Why is this problem unique to the USA? I'm not saying I never get spam calls, but I certainly have to scroll back quite a bit in my phone call history to see the last one. Also, on the rare occasion I do get a spam call it's always from some random international country like South Sudan or Oman that I would never expect a phone call from. What makes this problem uniquely hard to solve for the USA as opposed to anywhe…

In Sweden telephone operators can be forbidden from let spam categorized numbers reach you. That and you know.. breaking the law has actual consequences for both spammers and telcos.

> telephone operators can be forbidden from let spam categorized numbers reach you

How does this help with a spoofed call from India?

Re: FCC will require phone carriers to authenticate calls by June 2021 [pdf]

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Why is this problem unique to the USA? I'm not saying I never get spam calls, but I certainly have to scroll back quite a bit in my phone call history to see the last one. Also, on the rare occasion I do get a spam call it's always from some random international country like South Sudan or Oman that I would never expect a phone call from. What makes this problem uniquely hard to solve for the USA as opposed to anywhe…

Why is this problem unique to the USA? Every time this topic comes up on HN, someone asks that same question. Then there's a bunch of responses that are lots of suppositions. Then several people from small European countries chime in saying they've never had a spam call. Then a bunch of Europeans from large countries show up saying they get spam calls, too, and it's not just an American thing. "Why is this problem un…

Isn't FCC unique to USA? Well there you have it.

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post #2

If you’re wondering if STIR/SHAKEN was a James Bond reference, the answer is yes, and SHAKEN stands for “Signature-based Handling of Asserted information using toKENs”

I vaguely wonder sometimes as to what's the origin of the extreme US cheesiness with these names. Like, it's elementary-school level kitsch.

So far my guess is ‘the forties’. Or maybe the fifties, with all the ‘atomic’ ridiculousness.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What solutions does Europe, etc have that the US doesn't? Genuine question.

Don't know about Europe, in Brazil spam calls are common but you can register your number in a consumer protection organ to say that you do not want unwanted commercial calls and if you keep receiving them the companies can be fined, for me it works "ok", there still companies that don't give a shit but at least the amount of calls I receive was reduced a lot...

The US did this before most countries, actually. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Do_Not_Call_Registry

Most US spam calls originate outside of the US, though.

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