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Honda bucks industry trend by removing touchscreen controls

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Re: Honda bucks industry trend by removing touchscreen controls

#111
Last year I bought a motorcycle (Honda CB300R) and it was a revelation.

No touch screens. No stereo. No GPS. No Bluetooth. No automatic transmission. No cupholders. Basically no "modern car features". And it's a much, much better road experience than any car I've ever been able to afford to drive.

Get rid of all the distractions at a price point under $30k with an engine that doesn't feel sluggish and maybe I'll consider buying a car again.

(Necessary disclaimer: I live somewhere where it's sunny and warm the majority of the year and where car parking is nigh impossible. Maybe I'd feel differently if I lived in rural Canada.)

Re: Honda bucks industry trend by removing touchscreen controls

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Eminently sensible call by Honda. Knobs, dials and switches work well and do not demand that a driver takes their eyes off the road. I suppose that voice controls would be a reasonably safe tech option, but probably not cost-effective.

I'm still waiting for the convenient floor-mounted headlamp dimmer switch to come back.

Now would be a good time, there are very few of us who use the engine disconnect pedal these days.

Re: Honda bucks industry trend by removing touchscreen controls

#113
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Any monitor manufacturers want to follow suit? What I'd give for hardware input source buttons. This is a ridiculous UX: 1. Touch button to open menu 2. Select "Input Source" 3. Click up/down (possibly multiple times) to find your source 4. Click OK ...when your monitor has TWO sources. Just give me 2 buttons: HDMI and DisplayPort. I don't care that this would be marginally more expensive. I'd pay it. Touch screen co…

Dell Ultrasharp gives you shortcut keys that you can assign to any function. I have one for Displayport and a second for HDMI.

Re: Honda bucks industry trend by removing touchscreen controls

#114
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https://www.motorauthority.com/news/1121372_why-mazda-is-pur... A more in-depth article last year on why Mazda is doing this.

Yep, Mazda were the most vocal about rejecting the touch screen trend, and Honda and Toyota are losing a lot of customers to Mazda who have been producing the best cars in their class in the last several years so it makes sense that they are jumping on the bandwagon.

Re: Honda bucks industry trend by removing touchscreen controls

#115

What if--and stay with me for a moment--what if it's good for different manufacturers to have different approaches to the problem, giving people the option to choose Honda for buttons or Tesla for touchscreens? What if there are legitimate arguments for both and it's good that there's both options available?

> What if there are legitimate arguments for both

What if you made one?

Re: Honda bucks industry trend by removing touchscreen controls

#116
post #8

Eminently sensible call by Honda. Knobs, dials and switches work well and do not demand that a driver takes their eyes off the road. I suppose that voice controls would be a reasonably safe tech option, but probably not cost-effective.

Exactly - touchscreen offer no unique tactile feedback you can associate with an individual action. Also when the screen is multi use depending upon options then you really handicap the muscle memory and with that, cause distractions.

However, I do feel HUD display tech is one area in which could do with some love as would compliment and be less distracting over a screen located away from the drivers view of vision.

Re: Honda bucks industry trend by removing touchscreen controls

#117
Let me give you another perspective - I own a Suzuki SX4 S-Cross that comes with a fluid, super responsive and intuitive touchscreen with voice commands in it, which can also be controlled from the steering. You can do stuff like ask to call someone's phone, or read a text message or ask you to give directions.

But the real highlight is the UI + UX. It's super intuitive in that the volume controls, although touch, are always in a fixed location and you just drag over towards the edge of the screen up or down. In addition, you also have steering mounted controls to control the volume. The whole screen is divided into 4 quadrants and clicking anywhere in those quadrants will take you to either of the main screen (Eg. Navigation or FM Radio). It doesn't take long to get used to remembering which quadrant is for which. Also, for safety, you can't use some core features of navigation while driving the car. It will ask you to stop first if you want to say, type for a certain address.

I have never seen such fantastic UX in such mid-tier cars. To me, it seem's Honda's move is backward - perhaps it could be solved by simple UX..which Suzuki and Bosch (the supplier of their infotainment units) have already solved?

I find it super convenient because I don't even need to take my eyes off the road...while enjoying the convenience of a touch screen.

A picture (or video is worth a thousand words): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvERUKfjufg

Re: Honda bucks industry trend by removing touchscreen controls

#118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

even on phones it's "bad", it requires high focus.. it's was only good in the theory that smartphones would be used for prolonged dedicated tasks. how i miss blind use of buttons on old dumbphones

I've been hanging onto my Galaxy S7 just because it has actual home and back buttons. Don't know if anyone else still does that.

wait for 2025 invention of the physical extra-surfacic actuator, not a button, a xiaomi exclusive

Re: Honda bucks industry trend by removing touchscreen controls

#119
Excellent move. I totally support this. Touchscreens removes all the accurate tactile feedback of what you are doing to a control and that forces the user to fallback to taking a look, hence deviating the center of the sight from the ideal zone for a really unjustifiable reason.

Re: Honda bucks industry trend by removing touchscreen controls

#120
To be fair to touch screen controls, Honda had exceptionally poor ones. There’s always at least a second delay on brightness/volume/etc. adjustments in our 2018 Honda. I think the unit is just incredibly underpowered, because CarPlay (phone driven) doesn’t suffer from the same issues.
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