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Zoom meetings aren’t end-to-end encrypted, despite marketing

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Re: Zoom meetings aren’t end-to-end encrypted, despite marketing

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I guess Zoom says they're end-to-end encrypted because they're using WebRTC, which probably means traffic is end-to-end encrypted after signaling, but users need to trust that zoom's signaling server doesn't do anything fishy.

Edit: I do not understand the reason for the downvotes. I am not defending the practice but am just describing their potential line of explanation. Please let me know explicitly if my comment is technically incorrect. Also, I would be interested what other vendors claim, who probably use similar technology under the hood.

Re: Zoom meetings aren’t end-to-end encrypted, despite marketing

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Zoom has received a fair bit of critical feedback lately. Has anyone given other platforms such as Vidyo identical levels of scrutiny?

TBF it's mostly short sellers doing this, because the complaints have been... poor.

The first one was about an advertisement pixel, which everybody is doing but for some reason surfaced only for Zoom.

The second one is end-to-end encryption, which is not expected at all for VC apps. NOBODY does it!

Re: Zoom meetings aren’t end-to-end encrypted, despite marketing

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post #5

I guess Zoom says they're end-to-end encrypted because they're using WebRTC, which probably means traffic is end-to-end encrypted after signaling, but users need to trust that zoom's signaling server doesn't do anything fishy. Edit: I do not understand the reason for the downvotes. I am not defending the practice but am just describing their potential line of explanation. Please let me know explicitly if my comment i…

Video conferences via WebRTC usually have a central server that distributes all the video streams and are therefore not end-to-end encrypted.

Re: Zoom meetings aren’t end-to-end encrypted, despite marketing

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Zoom has received a fair bit of critical feedback lately. Has anyone given other platforms such as Vidyo identical levels of scrutiny?

I'm usually not the one for conspiracy theories and this is most likely just media outlets fixating on one topic for clicks, but sometimes this just feels like a smear campaign against Zoom. I'm sure a lot of these issues could be found for other providers as well.

Re: Zoom meetings aren’t end-to-end encrypted, despite marketing

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Zoom has received a fair bit of critical feedback lately. Has anyone given other platforms such as Vidyo identical levels of scrutiny?

I'm usually not the one for conspiracy theories and this is most likely just media outlets fixating on one topic for clicks, but sometimes this just feels like a smear campaign against Zoom. I'm sure a lot of these issues could be found for other providers as well.

Name one provider that claims to provide end-to-end encrypted video calls but doesn't.

Re: Zoom meetings aren’t end-to-end encrypted, despite marketing

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Zoom has received a fair bit of critical feedback lately. Has anyone given other platforms such as Vidyo identical levels of scrutiny?

TBF it's mostly short sellers doing this, because the complaints have been... poor. The first one was about an advertisement pixel, which everybody is doing but for some reason surfaced only for Zoom. The second one is end-to-end encryption, which is not expected at all for VC apps. NOBODY does it!

I really hope that this stupid "short seller conspiracy" meme is going away soon.

According to the article Apple does end-to-end encryption for video conferences. Also other providers are not lying about it like zoom does.

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