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The team behind https://covid19japan.com fights with this nonsense every day. We're open ears to improvements, and are playing with ways to possibly automate bits. Our GitHub: https://github.com/reustle/covid19japan/
I wish there was something like this for the UK!
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It is impossible to trust information that comes out of country that suppresses freedom of the press. It's a very simple cause-and-effect.
It is not like western channels were truthful all the time. Keeping America, compare fox news information with msnbc. No way both are telling truth about cornavirus.
a) Fox News
b) China
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It is not like western channels were truthful all the time. Keeping America, compare fox news information with msnbc. No way both are telling truth about cornavirus.
Answer this without getting terribly confused, which of the following is a large country, which one is not a country: a) Fox News b) China
Knowing Japan, I bet some poor freshly graduated but elite sod in the health ministry was, out of the blue, told by his boss "here's a bunch of reports from different prefectures. Make a report out of them." So he goes off and try to make sense of the data, which is why you see those magic and unexplained equations in the report. The kicker is the most complex computer thing he ever did in his life was that Word pres…
now days hacker news is often filled non-tech related discussion, specially anything relate to China or politics; come on guys, this is Hacker news, not political news; if you are so passion about politics, go to some forum dedicate for those things;
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> China is a totalitarian state that quite literally controls information; Japan and the US are not in any real sense. The US has a long history of spreading misinformation and lies too. Japan also tried to cover up its WW2 crimes. Point is, all governments want to control information to a certain degree.
As I said, this is a false equivalence. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_equivalence These “information control” done by the US and China are in no way comparable and any suggestion that they are is pure whataboutism. We are discussing this on a website based in the US, where freedom of speech is more-or-less guaranteed. Try doing the same in China and see how the CCP reacts. For another example of this, consider…
The US lies differently than China. But the lies work all the same.
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Answer this without getting terribly confused, which of the following is a large country, which one is not a country: a) Fox News b) China
You would be surprised, but fox news is what is coming out of America. And currently American president is taking facts from there and disseminated them in press conferences.
But as you ignored the last question (Answer: China is a big country, not Fox News), here's a new one for you. Which Chinese guy named Li Wenliang tried to warn people the shit was hitting the fan and then got seriously slapped down for it because reality wasn't what president Xi wanted to hear? And then died of exactly what he was trying to warn about?
As my Chinses is poor may I ask a favour of you, that you translate this https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/54/%E6%9D%8... for us, please.
Thank you.
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> I don't deal in speculation and rumours sorry. But you trust a known liar (the Chinese government)? Sounds like you're a bit biased here. > US propaganda So the US spreads propaganda, but not China? I don't understand how an educated individual could spout this nonsense anywhere. edit: Am I getting downvotes because HN thinks the Chinese government doesn't have a history of lying? Anyone remember Tiananmen Square,…
They both propagandize but people in the west are less trained to identify US propaganda than Chinese propaganda. The reverse is also true in China. Useful idiots everywhere. > an educated individual An educated individual =/= a qualified one. There are qualified experts in government with experience managing the US-China relationship. They would not fixate on Chinese statistics in an case like this. What happened in…
Yes, because they all knew the official narrative from China could not be trusted. They ignored the words and looked at the actions.
I suspect our intelligence folk knew as well.
The emotional response we are seeing all over the country is because the average person feels like an idiot for listening to China and to the experts at the WHO.
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I wish there was something like this for the UK!
This isn't quite as pretty but is fairly good: https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/f94c3c9...
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You would be surprised, but fox news is what is coming out of America. And currently American president is taking facts from there and disseminated them in press conferences.
And half the population dislike Trump. And they can criticise him freely. And do. But as you ignored the last question (Answer: China is a big country, not Fox News), here's a new one for you. Which Chinese guy named Li Wenliang tried to warn people the shit was hitting the fan and then got seriously slapped down for it because reality wasn't what president Xi wanted to hear? And then died of exactly what he was tryi…
I understand what you are talking about, but there was enough data public about China having trouble in January. And there was that report from secret service that was known by goverment and became public later. The situation being bad in China was not opaque or unknown. They dis not actually managed to make it much of secret.
And right now, "Chinese are lying" is used as propaganda to make Americans think that situation is quite good and defensive measures are unnecessary. It just can't possibly be that America has taken lead in infected. America ia the greatest always and in everything. It just can't be, it would be just fine to open economy and it is all hoax.
