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Re: Bosses panic-buy spy software to keep tabs on remote workers

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Human to human communication is such a better way to do it.

We've adjusted our "standups" (I say it with quotes as our standups are pretty informal compared to what some folks describe) to include folks who usually weren't included (president of company) before and done a better job of tracking time on our own.

That seems to make everyone happier... granted we're a small shop.

There's probably a "bad boss / culture" thing here for folks who are desperate to do these things... are just going to do it and don't know / care to do better / have no clue how to really grok productivity and the inherent vagaries of it.

Everyone else is just chugging along without these issues.

Re: Bosses panic-buy spy software to keep tabs on remote workers

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University libraries are silent. Focus is the first-class activity; groups that want to work together must book a conference room or go to a dedicated collaboration floor. You might go with your friends for company, but you’re only going to speak on e.g. trips down from the workspace to the attached coffee shop. A “library rules” open office would be just fine. That’s not what happens, though. The point of an open of…

> University libraries are silent. This is not universally true. I've done a lot of working in university libraries recently, and many of them have switched to allowing collaboration in the main spaces. > A “library rules” open office would be just fine. This still wouldn't work for me personally. I listen to music pretty much all the time while working, and get really sick of wearing headphones all the time. The onl…

This is accurate. My university has silent floors, "quiet floors" (rarely enforced), and a few well used open collaboration areas with movable furniture.

Re: Bosses panic-buy spy software to keep tabs on remote workers

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Where I live what he did is a fairly serious criminal offence.

It appears to be standard practice everywhere in corporate America.

Screenshots are not standard practice- in fact, since they're a great way to leak secrets being displayed on screen (passwords, confidential information), that's probably the opposite of standard practice.

Standard practice is monitoring emails, chat, web traffic and so on.

Re: Bosses panic-buy spy software to keep tabs on remote workers

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I've only been a professional for 8 years but I've never had this experience as a developer.

How can you be sure?

Because every place I've worked (including corporations) I've had local admin on my box and could see the entire process tree. Usually you have to be running all the antivirus and monitoring stuff to connect to the employee network/VPN, but when you're off VPN you can kill those processes off.

Re: Bosses panic-buy spy software to keep tabs on remote workers

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PSA for businesses: how about instead of spying on the deadweight you fire them and reward the productive employees. There are tons of work from home employees (who normally work from home) who are 10x more productive than the in-office ones, because they realize the value of what they have. It's too bad most people will only work when you're looking over their shoulder, but lets not keep that on life-support with sp…

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Re: Bosses panic-buy spy software to keep tabs on remote workers

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This happened to me years ago. I was put in an empty office at the opposite end from my boss, and because he couldn't walk up behind me to see me working, he secretly installed a program on my computer that took a screenshot every 30 seconds (or so?). I quickly noticed that my computer was hitching regularly (when the screenshot was taken - this was in the late 90s BTW), and so investigated my computer on a day when…

Where I live what he did is a fairly serious criminal offence.

prob not if you agree to it. You are getting paid to work, the computer is owned by the company so ...

Re: Bosses panic-buy spy software to keep tabs on remote workers

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Is anyone working at a tech company where this is happening to you? I can't imagine the stress this would cause someone.

If anyone is considering leaving the enterprise, and going freelance. Think twice, especially in the current climate - https://medium.com/@alexellisuk/what-you-need-to-know-before...

Re: Bosses panic-buy spy software to keep tabs on remote workers

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I'm surprised cubicles get so much hate. I loved mine at my first job. Oodles of desk space. Locking drawers and cabinets. There was a chair in the corner so a guest could sit. Made it easy to have 2 meetings without disturbing people. less aesthetically pleasing in office photographs, but overall a much better work environment than any open plan I've experienced.

I think it depends on the nature of your job. If you regularly need to interact verbally with colleagues, cubes are kind of a pain. I forget where I saw this but there was a company that had set up what were basically "team offices" so teams that worked closely together each had their own closed room where they worked, so they could collaborate in their own manner. Quiet when they needed it, loud when they needed it,…

I had a setup like this. The IT Office which was its own room, then had 4 of those L cubicles in it.

If you're reading this and you have this setup - don't take the bait to move to the newly remodeled building - it's a trap!

Re: Bosses panic-buy spy software to keep tabs on remote workers

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My institution tried to implement "productivity" software during the shutdown. I, and one other director, were the sole voices of reason, saying "this is a waste of money and time when we're busy enough as it is".

We apparently were persuasive, they cancelled that buy. Then, once we were out, executive leadership tried to implement a 'task tracking' timesheet to be filled out by every employee.

I took a HUGE chance on my career. I e-mailed all leadership and the board, explaining that implementing this was needless busy work. If we were working remotely, and the expectations were that the same things were getting done, implementing something like this and NOT when we were physically present would just prove that 'management' at our institution meant control of people's lives.

We're higher education, and everyone is slightly anti-establishment in some fashion. This put the hair up on everyone's neck. One hellstorm of an e-mail thread later, and they killed that form, too.

Management just needs to realize that people fuck around at work. It is not important whether that is at physical work, or remote. It will happen. What is important is that you evaluate the work done, and, unless you're working on billable hours, evaluate whether there are more efficient ways to do business. If you enter those conversations honestly, then your people will have just enough time to fuck around, while still being super productive.

Being human is part of work. Fucking around with the people you spend a lot of time with is part of being human.

Re: Bosses panic-buy spy software to keep tabs on remote workers

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I can not imagine wanting to work for someplace that doesn't have the infrastructure to allow for remote work. I'm lucky enough to be able to be choosy about who receives my labor and it's unfortunate that some people have to be relegate to working for bosses who fail to connect with people on a basic interpersonal level. It would be a good outcome for allowing remote work to become a new normal. Give the workers the option. You rely on them and your boss job is meaningless without them.
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