Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Linux 5.6

lore.kernel.org

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

81–90 of 153 posts

Re: Linux 5.6

#81

Post by ndesaulniers »

ihalip wrote: post #51
MrQuincle wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nice, what did you do and how much time did it take? I've been hesitating to contribute but it would be great to read a blog post of someone just starting to contribute to see what it takes! It might be enough to get over the fear.

I only did some small fixes for building the kernel with the clang compiler. Probably the most confusing thing when getting started is finding something to work on. There's no real centralized issue tracker/TODO list/ideas list - discussion happens mostly in mailing lists [0][1] for specific topics. If you follow the discussion on YOUR_FAVORITE_TOPIC long enough you should be able to find easy work items, people able…

Finding where to start was the precise issue I looked to solve by setting up that issue tracker.

And by being patient, leaving low hanging fruit, taking the time to file issues (explain, demonstrate, guide, enable), we've been able to help many people including yourself make their first contributions to Linux and LLVM.

I'm proud of you, Ilie!

Re: Linux 5.6

#82

Post by hannob »

ssb1 wrote: post #68
hannob wrote: post #54

If anyone else - like me - has tried updating the kernel this morning and figured out wifi with an intel card was broken: It seems they broke the iwlwifi driver [1] and here [2] is the patch to fix it. [1] https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-5.... [2] https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/netdev/net.g...

It's been broken for a while https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1863769 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1864188 https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bugs?field.searc...

Pretty sure these are different issues.

The iwlwifi issue was introduced very recently with a security fix, as described by phoronix. I was running kernel 5.6-rc6 for some testing recently and it didn't have this issue.

Re: Linux 5.6

#83

Post by jklinger410 »

Feeling a noticeable speed improvement on my Thinkpad running Focal Fossa. Hearing variable fan sounds that I am not used to running on Linux as well. I feel like the fan has been much more active when running Ubuntu as opposed to Windows. Hopefully these new fan sounds hint at less fan usage long-term.

Once Fossa gets out of beta and some of the weird GNOME bugs clear up for that release, this will probably be the best Linux/Ubuntu performance in years.

Re: Linux 5.6

#84

Post by pmarreck »

hannob wrote: post #54

If anyone else - like me - has tried updating the kernel this morning and figured out wifi with an intel card was broken: It seems they broke the iwlwifi driver [1] and here [2] is the patch to fix it. [1] https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-5.... [2] https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/netdev/net.g...

I've been trying to convert people to various flavors of Linux for 20 years now and the usual showstopper is wifi not working at all, or at least without a ton more fiddling. Interesting to see that some things haven't changed.

Trying to be constructive here, might it be because automated testing can't easily test things that touch the "real world"? Or is it due to some sheer number of possible wifi hardware implementations? Or both? (I really wish the vast majority of wifi antennas were hooked up directly to a generic SDR at this point)

Re: Linux 5.6

#85

Post by freedomben »

pmarreck wrote: post #84
hannob wrote: post #54

If anyone else - like me - has tried updating the kernel this morning and figured out wifi with an intel card was broken: It seems they broke the iwlwifi driver [1] and here [2] is the patch to fix it. [1] https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-5.... [2] https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/netdev/net.g...

I've been trying to convert people to various flavors of Linux for 20 years now and the usual showstopper is wifi not working at all, or at least without a ton more fiddling. Interesting to see that some things haven't changed. Trying to be constructive here, might it be because automated testing can't easily test things that touch the "real world"? Or is it due to some sheer number of possible wifi hardware implemen…

If you are pushing your new converts to install/update to bleeding edge kernel releases, you're really doing them a disservice and setting them up for failure.

Re: Linux 5.6

#86

Post by JoshTriplett »

Erlich_Bachman wrote: post #15
tracker1 wrote: post #13

Upgraded to a system with an X570 motherboard and an RX 5700 XT graphics card... for the most part, since Kernel 5.3, every release has been more stable and mostly better performing... though having to manually download drivers a couple times from the kernel git repo has been a pain, I really appreciate the effort. ----- Rant ahead... If only the front end could button up more... Gnome's blank screen + password seems…

You should perhaps try other desktop environments/windows managers. The linux desktop world definitely does not simply end beyond Gnome and KDE. And very few people seem to be enjoying Gnome much at all, it just seems like a poorly designed environment. Nowadays I feel like throwing up at the thought of having to switch back to Windows, even in terms of desktop environment and interface. There are just so many more t…

> And very few people seem to be enjoying Gnome much at all,

Happy people don't comment as often as people who have complaints.

I personally have used GNOME for a decade and a half, and it continues to Just Work for me, and get better with each release.

I'm not suggesting that nobody has issues with it, but the idea that nobody likes it is certainly untrue. There's a reason it's the most popular default environment installed by distributions.

Re: Linux 5.6

#87

Post by wiz21c »

majewsky wrote: post #78
wiz21c wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As an open source user and (in the past, contributor), I wholeheartedly agree with that. The fact that a software has no bugs is what makes it a product I can rely on. For example, I'm a KDE user since 20 years. And although it has come a long way, there's always this little bug here or there. Because of that , I can't recommend it to some non IT user who's going to use it alone, I can't 100% trust it. So OP is right…

If you cannot recommend KDE because "there's always this little bug here or there", you cannot recommend anything. When people prefer Windows over Linux, or macOS over Windows, or Linux over macOS, it's often because they don't want to exchange their well-known set of bugs for an exciting and unknown new set of bugs.

not as simple as that. For example, on debian buster, the Discover search bar doesn't work if used several times; the favorites in the start menu sometimes reappear after being deleted; when I quit kmail by using the windows close button, Kmail complains it exited in an unexpected way, etc. These are not little quirks, these are apparent in a normal daily usage. I use Windows at work and it's past those issues.

But yet, I still prefer KDE because I prefer the whole myth of its creation (I say it's a myth because 1/ there's not much of a story 2/ even if it existed I'm 100% sure I didn't read it). I also prefer it over Windows and OSX 'cos it has things which are better : start menu is very clean, konsole works great, okular is super good, K3B just works,...

So I'm not criticizing the work done by KDE, it's just the end result that is 98% good (which for me, as an experimented dev/user means 101%), not 99.9%.

And while I'm at it, installing the next stable debian is always such an amazement to me. Things improve so much in stability and in those little bugs here and there. Having been a GPL/linux/... follower since almost 30 years, I can measure that. And it's soooooo great now... Can't believe that I've been able to see the whole thing happening. And now the pinephone thing is coming along...

(that was the emotional minute, thx for your attention :-) )

Re: Linux 5.6

#88

Post by steelbird »

"So we'll play it by ear and see what happens. It's not like the merge window is more important than your health, or the health of people around you."

Very nice.

Re: Linux 5.6

#89

Post by isbjorn16 »

jimktrains2 wrote: post #64
hannob wrote: post #54

If anyone else - like me - has tried updating the kernel this morning and figured out wifi with an intel card was broken: It seems they broke the iwlwifi driver [1] and here [2] is the patch to fix it. [1] https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-5.... [2] https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/netdev/net.g...

I just got a thinkpad x1 carbon and have similar issues with the intel chipset for wifi and audio with newer kernels as well. Only thinkpad over ever had issues with .

I ended up putting together a gist of all the stuff I had to do to get my gen 7 carbon x1 working: https://gist.github.com/dwaynepryce/5a3141dfcb3cb166cd54766f...
Post reply on HN