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Re: RStudio,a new IDE for R

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Post by jcheng » Mon, Feb 28, 2011, 5:24 PM UTC

equark wrote: post #8

jcheng wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks! It's HTML/Javascript. (Note that you can use it as a webapp, we couldn't do that with Qt obviously)

But you make native dialog calls too? Care to expand on how Qt, GWT, pure Javascript mix? I think you guys have really pulled off something great in terms of cross platform support and the web.

> But you make native dialog calls too?

Yes, sometimes we call back into native code, especially to do things like file dialogs that you really prefer to be native.

> Care to expand on how Qt, GWT, pure Javascript mix? I think you guys have really pulled off something great in terms of cross platform support and the web.

Thanks! We use QtWebkit as the container for our UI. QtWebkit has hooks to let Qt code execute JavaScript in the page, and you can also inject Qt objects into the window object so JS can call into it. GWT's extensible compilation pipeline actually lets us create stub interfaces in GWT that mirror the Qt classes we want to call, and automatically generate the glue code at compile time.

At some point I will blog about this in more detail at http://jcheng.wordpress.com. In the meantime feel free to peruse our source code at http://github.com/rstudio/rstudio and reach out if you have specific questions.

Re: RStudio,a new IDE for R

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Post by kindlyviking » Mon, Feb 28, 2011, 5:34 PM UTC

RStudio's binary is named 'rdesktop'. Oops! Although it's not in the default PATH, so it could be worse :)

Re: RStudio,a new IDE for R

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Post by kindlyviking » Mon, Feb 28, 2011, 5:44 PM UTC

kindlyviking wrote: post #12

RStudio's binary is named 'rdesktop'. Oops! Although it's not in the default PATH, so it could be worse :)

Looks like there's a bug report already http://bit.ly/epH9kt

Re: RStudio,a new IDE for R

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Post by moondowner » Mon, Feb 28, 2011, 6:09 PM UTC

The UI pretty similar to RKWard (http://rkward.sourceforge.net/), which is according to me the best IDE, especially for Linux users.

P.S. Someone should make a comparison between these two IDEs.

Re: RStudio,a new IDE for R

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Post by zaph0d » Mon, Feb 28, 2011, 6:28 PM UTC

Looks good, but it's crashing on my Mac OS X (Snow Leopard). Any idea how I can debug/fix this issue?

Re: RStudio,a new IDE for R

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Post by js4all » Mon, Feb 28, 2011, 6:49 PM UTC

I find it strange, that I have to download and install a 40 Meg statistics package to run an IDE.

Re: RStudio,a new IDE for R

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Post by kenjackson » Mon, Feb 28, 2011, 6:49 PM UTC

olalonde wrote: post #4

AGPL license, interesting. I suppose the plan is to monetize with a hosting/SaaS service? Edit: Found the answer on their blog: > RStudio is also a company, and we plan to sell services (support, training, consulting, hosting) related to the open-source software we distribute.

I'd be curious to hear their calculus for why they thought this services route would be more lucrative than selling the product and services.

It seems like the type of product that people who would balk at purchasing it would be the same type to balkat most types of services listed (except maybe hosting).

Re: RStudio,a new IDE for R

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Post by jdminhbg » Mon, Feb 28, 2011, 6:54 PM UTC

js4all wrote: post #16

I find it strange, that I have to download and install a 40 Meg statistics package to run an IDE.

It's not that strange when you realize it's an IDE for a statistics processing language.

Re: RStudio,a new IDE for R

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Post by dlib » Mon, Feb 28, 2011, 7:33 PM UTC

I use MatLab mostly for statistical purposes, together with EViews (statistical software geared towards econometrics). This could certainly ease the transition towards R and replace both aforementioned tools.

Re: RStudio,a new IDE for R

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Post by djacobs » Mon, Feb 28, 2011, 7:49 PM UTC

moondowner wrote: post #14

The UI pretty similar to RKWard ( http://rkward.sourceforge.net/ ), which is according to me the best IDE, especially for Linux users. P.S. Someone should make a comparison between these two IDEs.

In my experience, RKWard frequently crashes when loaded with modest datasets (1700 data points or so for me). I wonder if RStudio has the same memory problems. If not, I'd be willing to give it a shot.