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The U.S.'s $13B aircraft carrier has a toilet problem

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Re: The U.S.'s $13B aircraft carrier has a toilet problem

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“system must regularly be cleaned with ... acid solution that costs $400,000 per use.” I realise the government/military procurement process can result in higher costs than the private sector would pay, but that is beyond ridiculous.

Well, which private sector organization fields 1,000+ feet ships housing thousands of people, besides cruise lines? I don't know how much a flushing of the entire wastewater system on a ship like the Oasis of the Seas costs, but it's probably not as low as $1,000.

Re: The U.S.'s $13B aircraft carrier has a toilet problem

#42

“system must regularly be cleaned with ... acid solution that costs $400,000 per use.” I realise the government/military procurement process can result in higher costs than the private sector would pay, but that is beyond ridiculous.

My guess would be that this figure also includes costs for downtime and the like, but that's just a guess. Would be interested to see a more detailed breakdown of the $400k.

Re: The U.S.'s $13B aircraft carrier has a toilet problem

#43

“system must regularly be cleaned with ... acid solution that costs $400,000 per use.” I realise the government/military procurement process can result in higher costs than the private sector would pay, but that is beyond ridiculous.

Try $400 a gallon off gas--after paying the enemy (the Taliban) to allow the shipment though. https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/63407-400gallon-...

My guess is that the liquid is toxic and also might have to be processed after.

Re: The U.S.'s $13B aircraft carrier has a toilet problem

#45

“system must regularly be cleaned with ... acid solution that costs $400,000 per use.” I realise the government/military procurement process can result in higher costs than the private sector would pay, but that is beyond ridiculous.

Try $400 a gallon off gas--after paying the enemy (the Taliban) to allow the shipment though. https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/63407-400gallon-... My guess is that the liquid is toxic and also might have to be processed after.

Article from 2009. They now use long haul truck convoys through Russia and Central Asia to avoid this problem.

Re: The U.S.'s $13B aircraft carrier has a toilet problem

#46

Human poop cannot polute oceans, fishes tend to poop and pee as well

Fish and humans have vastly different diets, and human feces contain different bacteria and viruses than fish feces. You can absolutely pollute an ocean with sewage. Please try to educate yourself.

Re: The U.S.'s $13B aircraft carrier has a toilet problem

#47
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> $56,707/week, or $2,948,764/year. I picked the wrong job.

they are paid a pittance of a salary compared to their charged. McKensey is pocketing the difference.

It also goes back into wining and dining the very clients they are charging, and otherwise bribing whoever they need to get the work.

Re: The U.S.'s $13B aircraft carrier has a toilet problem

#48
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly. The real question is - why do the chemicals cost $400,000? This seems to be a recurring theme with U.S. expenditure - particularly within the defense sector. When you get nearly blank checks from the government it’s not uncommon for items to be “marked up” so to speak and the difference pocketed by the vendors. Granted, this kind of stuff is pervasive across all sectors/layers. “[A] McKinsey “business analys…

The amount of red tape involved in working with the government- especially anything related to defense- is astounding. I previously worked with a start up whose contacts in the military genuinely wanted to buy our services, but the process to do so was so long that the company ended up pivoting to focus exclusively on the commercial market. It was a less ideal fit, but it actually paid. Take: One part slow bureaucrac…

One solution is to be acquired by a defense contractor. A company which I worked for went that route.
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