America's bailed-out airlines are not 'playing fair' with customers
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America's bailed-out airlines are not 'playing fair' with customers
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Re: America's bailed-out airlines are not 'playing fair' with customers
#2If you were flying to europe they should be reimbursing per EU261. So far its been hit or miss actually getting the refunds with the people I’ve helped.
Its amazing how when the contract of carriage is in the customer’s favor somehow it no longer applies.
Re: America's bailed-out airlines are not 'playing fair' with customers
#3Serious question: does anyone actually expect the government (at least the current administration, of the US) to do what's right for the little guy?
Re: America's bailed-out airlines are not 'playing fair' with customers
#4If we give bail outs, we should get stock/control. End of story. All bailed out companies should be nationalized to some extent, depending on the value of their stock and how much the government buys.
A board/council of nationally elected representatives should manage whatever share of these companies the government owns.
It's time the citizens started getting a return on their tax dollars if they're being used for private investment.
Re: America's bailed-out airlines are not 'playing fair' with customers
#5Serious question: does anyone actually expect the government (at least the current administration, of the US) to do what's right for the little guy?
As much as I'd love to pile on to this question, HN isn't a place for general political arguments, and this isn't a productive discussion for this site.
Re: America's bailed-out airlines are not 'playing fair' with customers
#6Serious question: does anyone actually expect the government (at least the current administration, of the US) to do what's right for the little guy?
As much as I'd love to pile on to this question, HN isn't a place for general political arguments, and this isn't a productive discussion for this site.
“HN isn't a place for general political arguments”
I wish we’d stop lying to ourselves about this.
Re: America's bailed-out airlines are not 'playing fair' with customers
#7Yes, the bailout should've required all flights scheduled during shelter-in-place to be refunded. Millions of consumer dollars tied up in airline credits is a net drag on economic stimulus.
Re: America's bailed-out airlines are not 'playing fair' with customers
#8If you were flying to europe they should be reimbursing per EU261. So far its been hit or miss actually getting the refunds with the people I’ve helped. Its amazing how when the contract of carriage is in the customer’s favor somehow it no longer applies.
Despite not having any information on American Airline's website, I was able to get my money for a cancelled flight last year from Europe to the US (due to technical problems on the plane) by just doing the contact us form and putting in all the info. But of course, they didn't have any of this info listed on their website in a way that told me I needed to do that. The check was mailed on time, and I was actually pretty surprised.
Definitely try to get your money under the EU regulations! It's worth the time.
Re: America's bailed-out airlines are not 'playing fair' with customers
#9If we give bail outs, we should get stock/control. End of story. All bailed out companies should be nationalized to some extent, depending on the value of their stock and how much the government buys. A board/council of nationally elected representatives should manage whatever share of these companies the government owns. It's time the citizens started getting a return on their tax dollars if they're being used for p…
> A board/council of nationally elected representatives should manage whatever share of these companies the government owns
This has succeeded practically zero times in the history of nationalisation. Transitioning a culture from private ownership to public is highly value destroying. And putting electeds in charge of companies goes about as one would expect in terms of venality and competence.
The better strategy is to have a board appointed by elected representatives with a finite term and mandate to return the assets to private ownership.
Re: America's bailed-out airlines are not 'playing fair' with customers
#10If we give bail outs, we should get stock/control. End of story. All bailed out companies should be nationalized to some extent, depending on the value of their stock and how much the government buys. A board/council of nationally elected representatives should manage whatever share of these companies the government owns. It's time the citizens started getting a return on their tax dollars if they're being used for p…
These companies were shut down under extraordinary circumstances, and the economy also shut down in a very uneven way and for an indefinite time, with another potential shutdown to counter a winter resurgence. About half of Americans are still not under lockdown.
The picture to me is that the country does not consider itself as in the same boat.