Considering how many apps are using Facebook's SDK, shouldn't this be something that FB should be addressing? After all, they are the ones making an SDK available to app developers to help with user-login. Shouldn't the presumption of trust rest on FB?
Zoom’s Use of Facebook’s SDK in iOS Client
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Re: Zoom’s Use of Facebook’s SDK in iOS Client
#52So it sounds like Zoom was using the Facebook SDK, and now they're not. I've been and iOS developer for a long time. I can tell you from experience that everyone does this. I have never worked for anyone who didn't ask for their app to include some combination of Facebook, Google, Flurry, AppCenter, Segment, Intercom, Parse, or whatever other random analytics framework the PM happens to be infatuated with. Getting ma…
You can pretty easily see all the traffic on your own phone. You can even do it on device
Re: Zoom’s Use of Facebook’s SDK in iOS Client
#53I noticed today that the mic was "muted" on zoom. I chimed in on the video call I was on and the window flashed a reminder that I was "muted". So clearly the mic itself is not muted - the software is still listening. Not sure how I felt about that given all the recent Zoom privacy revelations.
FWIW Google Hangouts/Meet does the same thing. It’s actually a pretty useful feature... as long as you trust the company implementing it, I guess.
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Re: Zoom’s Use of Facebook’s SDK in iOS Client
#54So it sounds like Zoom was using the Facebook SDK, and now they're not. I've been and iOS developer for a long time. I can tell you from experience that everyone does this. I have never worked for anyone who didn't ask for their app to include some combination of Facebook, Google, Flurry, AppCenter, Segment, Intercom, Parse, or whatever other random analytics framework the PM happens to be infatuated with. Getting ma…
You can easily see all traffic on your device, try Charles proxy.
Re: Zoom’s Use of Facebook’s SDK in iOS Client
#55So it sounds like Zoom was using the Facebook SDK, and now they're not. I've been and iOS developer for a long time. I can tell you from experience that everyone does this. I have never worked for anyone who didn't ask for their app to include some combination of Facebook, Google, Flurry, AppCenter, Segment, Intercom, Parse, or whatever other random analytics framework the PM happens to be infatuated with. Getting ma…
>Getting mad at Zoom for using the Facebook SDK is missing the point.
It's really hard to believe this point given that... getting mad seems to have worked.
Re: Zoom’s Use of Facebook’s SDK in iOS Client
#56I contacted LG last month regarding their use of the Facebook SDK's automatic event collection in their ThinQ Android app. They responded and told me that they're disabling it in an upcoming release (incidentally, today's). If a single email is all it took to get a company with over $50 billion in revenue to disable Facebook's tracking in one of their apps, I really don't think that these companies are sharing data i…
> I don't think these companies are sharing data with Facebook intentionally.
That would imply they are incompetent and negligent.
Would one not expect large companies like LG to have internal security and privacy reviews of the software they publish, and know very well what they are doing?
> What justification
Their core business.
Re: Zoom’s Use of Facebook’s SDK in iOS Client
#57So it sounds like Zoom was using the Facebook SDK, and now they're not. I've been and iOS developer for a long time. I can tell you from experience that everyone does this. I have never worked for anyone who didn't ask for their app to include some combination of Facebook, Google, Flurry, AppCenter, Segment, Intercom, Parse, or whatever other random analytics framework the PM happens to be infatuated with. Getting ma…
You can pretty easily see all the traffic on your own phone. You can even do it on device https://apps.apple.com/us/app/charles-proxy/id1134218562
Seeing it != blocking it.
Re: Zoom’s Use of Facebook’s SDK in iOS Client
#58So it sounds like Zoom was using the Facebook SDK, and now they're not. I've been and iOS developer for a long time. I can tell you from experience that everyone does this. I have never worked for anyone who didn't ask for their app to include some combination of Facebook, Google, Flurry, AppCenter, Segment, Intercom, Parse, or whatever other random analytics framework the PM happens to be infatuated with. Getting ma…
>Getting mad at Zoom for using the Facebook SDK is missing the point. It's really hard to believe this point given that... getting mad seems to have worked.
Doesn't scale. We can't have 1,000,000 front page "App X uses Y SDK" posts. People will stop caring. Nobody's made a post of that flavor in awhile, and Zoom got caught in the crossfire. Honestly, if anything it shields other apps. People have a limited capacity for repeatedly addressing the same thing.
Re: Zoom’s Use of Facebook’s SDK in iOS Client
#59So it sounds like Zoom was using the Facebook SDK, and now they're not. I've been and iOS developer for a long time. I can tell you from experience that everyone does this. I have never worked for anyone who didn't ask for their app to include some combination of Facebook, Google, Flurry, AppCenter, Segment, Intercom, Parse, or whatever other random analytics framework the PM happens to be infatuated with. Getting ma…
>Getting mad at Zoom for using the Facebook SDK is missing the point. It's really hard to believe this point given that... getting mad seems to have worked.
My point is that you've removed one instance of the Facebook SDK from your phone, but you still have 50 others. Plus probably hundreds of other analytics frameworks that you've never even heard of that are just as bad or worse.
Re: Zoom’s Use of Facebook’s SDK in iOS Client
#60Considering how many apps are using Facebook's SDK, shouldn't this be something that FB should be addressing? After all, they are the ones making an SDK available to app developers to help with user-login. Shouldn't the presumption of trust rest on FB?
I can’t see the big deal. We use the Facebook SDK specifically for the free analytics. It’s just a default part of the SDK. It’s not sending anything any other analytics package wouldn’t