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Coyotes are being seen on the empty streets of San Francisco

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Re: Coyotes are being seen on the empty streets of San Francisco

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I live in the PNW. Every few days someone gets on nextdoor.com freaking out about having seen a coyote. My response is always the same. They were here long before humans were ever here and will still be here long after we are gone.

> They were here long before humans were ever here and will still be here long after we are gone.

Actually, they weren't, in the PNW. Coyotes were restricted to central North America until 1700; when European settlers extirpated wolves, coyotes moved in to take their place.

See: https://urbancoyoteresearch.com/coyote-info/north-american-d...

Re: Coyotes are being seen on the empty streets of San Francisco

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What we think of wild nature is nothing compared to what used to exist. Schools of fish so dense they would bring boats to a halt in the middle of the Atlantic. North America had more large wildlife than Africa. Whales as far as the eye could see all day long. Walruses in the Thames in London. I did a couple video essays on what I learned from a wonderful book The Once and Future World : My video essays: https://yout…

Passenger pigeons, bison, wolves, etc. Here is an interesting map of the historic and current grizzly bear ranges. https://www.usgs.gov/media/images/historical-and-current-gri... It is truly amazing how nearly completely we wiped the continent of wildlife. Many of our teams are named after the animals we wiped out. Florida Panthers, Jacksonville Jaguars, California Golden Bears, Michigan Wolverines, etc. > Whales as…

Oh, wow! For anyone that can't see the picture - the historical range shows grizzly bears past Texas and well into Mexico

Re: Coyotes are being seen on the empty streets of San Francisco

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As an early morning runner in SF, I see coyotes in SF every week or two, including at Twin peaks as mentioned in the article. One morning in Golden Gate Park I warned a few people walkings dogs since there were about 4 coyotes around the corner. From my first hand experience, I'd assume any wooded area with cover in SF has a coyote living there.

Not only that, many SF parks have signs warning about this, even years before the pandemic. That they would wander out of the wooded areas is no shock. A couple years ago I saw one strolling along the sidewalk in the Presidio not far from Main Post, acting more or less the same way a tourist would.

I lived in the Presidio not too long ago and I would see and hear them all the time. That was a fun place to live.

Re: Coyotes are being seen on the empty streets of San Francisco

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Coyotes have already done an excellent job of coexisting with humans. They are one of the most successful species at adapting to human civilization. Pigeons, rats, roaches, etc. also quite successful.

> Coyotes have already done an excellent job of coexisting with humans I have only seen them being 'successful' if are large tracts of land around the cities that they can live at. Would they be able to live in, say, Manhattan? If not, as we expand the urban sprawl, they might become less successful... And coyotes are not the only species we should be worried about.

You could say if more people lived in places like Manhattan, then there'd be more tracts of land elsewhere for coyotes (and other wildlife) to live.

Re: Coyotes are being seen on the empty streets of San Francisco

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What amazed me was after reading Unbroken (WWII novel set in the pacific) was the incredible amount of sharks in hawaii and the surrounding islands. A family member who was in the pacific theatre backed this up. Shark schools so dense that sailors would be attacked after they fell in. This was barely 70 years ago so alot has changed in terms of animal population.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/the-worst-shark-attac...

Thank you. Despite being in the midst of a pandemic, that is the worst thing I've read all week. It looks well cited, although I don't have the heart to check the sources...

Re: Coyotes are being seen on the empty streets of San Francisco

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With ya on this one, but what kinds of problems would this cause for people who don't have another option to get to work? Un-doing this ridiculous culture of driving 40 minutes to work will take a lot time. Still, I wholeheartedly agree on the concept. I'm curious as to how to fix the followup problems that will occur from fixing the primary problem.

Honestly, a grotesque carbon tax of 300% on a barrel of oil would only put prices back to where they were before the Russia/Saudi dump. You’ll find that people will adapt quite quickly as the price ramps up (we can smear over a year if we need to). Carpooling, switching to electric, or just getting a closer job will all suddenly seem very feasible when the numbers are concrete.

I'm surprised no one brought up the idea more people will just telecommute and work remotely, as so many are now discovering they can.
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