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$800M to support small businesses and crisis response

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Re: $800M to support small businesses and crisis response

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Post by dessant »

summerlight wrote: post #79
dessant wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Not couple billions I think we should stop giving them a pass. If they can spend billions on fines, it's possible that they could afford to spend a comparable amount to help people and save lives. Don't you find it insulting that the bulk of the support package is ad credits? > Google seems promoting the following link in their top page Only if you search for coronavirus tips and related terms, that is nowhere near…

> Only if you search for coronavirus tips and related terms, that is nowhere near the massive marketing campaign Google could pull off across their network to bring vital information to the public. I explicitly stated the phrase "in their top page", not "in their search page".

I don't see anything similar on google.com, maybe the message is geo-targeted.

Btw, it would be good to always disclose your affiliation to Google on similar threads, or at least in your bio.

Re: $800M to support small businesses and crisis response

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Post by londons_explore »

hienyimba wrote: post #36
judge2020 wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In an attempt to cut its own cost, Google effectively automates everything, even in terms of detecting abuse (eg. clickjacking or click fraud) and advertisements that go against their rules (I think even in terms of mentioning Covid-19 in ads since I haven't seen any ads mentioning anything about "virus"/"covid"/etc at all this month). I wouldn't doubt you got hit by this automated system. Maybe you should write a bl…

You would think that by making them so much money (they take 40% of income), you would be entitled to speak to a human. We have always followed their guidelines and just appealed to them but from researching others who have had similar issues, I'm assured that is a big black hole.

Even if you could talk to them, they wouldn't be able to tell you what you did wrong.

If they did tell you what you did wrong, you could figure out what the rules in their spam detecton system was and game the system, and their losses from you or anyone gaming their adspam detection system are far greater than loosing a few false positive customers.

Sux for you, but works great for them.

Re: $800M to support small businesses and crisis response

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Post by itsdrewmiller »

adrianmonk wrote: post #31
heinrichhartman wrote: post #20

This is NOT funding : - $250 million in ad grants ... - $340 million in Google Ads credits ... - A pool of $20 million in Google Cloud credits ... A company that has a Bazillion $ in the bank, has means to really make a difference. This is not. Edit/Clarification: The original title was: "$800M funding and grants to support ..". Now they changed it. I take issue with the claim of providing funding, and all they offer…

The title of the blog post says "funding and grants". If it was all funding, they could have just written "funding", but they didn't.

Is there any funding? They are not very transparent about what the fund for NGOs and SMBs does.

Re: $800M to support small businesses and crisis response

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Post by itsdrewmiller »

“ A $200 million investment fund that will support NGOs and financial institutions around the world to help provide small businesses with access to capital. As one example, we’re working with the Opportunity Finance Network in the U.S. to help fill gaps in financing for people and communities underserved by mainstream financial institutions. This is in addition to the $15 million in cash grants Google.org is already providing to nonprofits to help bridge these gaps for SMBs.”

What does this really mean? Aside from the NGO stuff it sounds like it could just be taking advantage of the downturn to buy businesses?

Re: $800M to support small businesses and crisis response

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Post by kortilla »

throwaway_USD wrote: post #70
kortilla wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

2010 called, it wants its memes back.

What does that even mean? Is anything I said funny or incorrect?

“so the bankers can make money” is a vapid statement ringing back to occupy Wall Street. That’s not what the money is for, not will it particularly help bankers anymore than it will help every person with a money market account, a mortgage, or a job at a corporation that uses loans.

Re: $800M to support small businesses and crisis response

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Post by stubish »

neiman wrote: post #45

Lol they offer free ads because there's a financial crisis, they probably lost of customers and they're trying to attract new ones. Fine. I offer free ads for 3 months worth 1B$ in my website, can I use it now for PR as well?:-)

Trick is, nobody is buying ads at the moment because nobody is spending on advertised products. So demand is way down, which means the value of the ads is also way down. By donating half a billion dollars worth of ads at today's rate, they generate half a billion dollars worth of demand and keep the price pumped up. If the numbers work out the right way, they might even be turning a profit by giving ads away.

Re: $800M to support small businesses and crisis response

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Post by randomsearch »

baby wrote: post #74

I don't know why people always expect companies to do things the government should do. And when they do things that the government should do, they then say the the company could do more. It's false. The government could do more. And if they're out of money they should tax these companies more then.

What if the people don’t support taxation, or the companies avoid it?
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