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Coyotes are being seen on the empty streets of San Francisco

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If humans hold our ecosystems together, then elimination of humans will also result in the rest of animals dying off.

And if another species dies off, it can also destabilize the ecosystem. Where is the special role of humans coming from?

We are able to recognize, anticipate and avert ecological collapse. No other animal can do this. The rest of the animal kingdom can only adapt, at best.

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What if humans are special, and help hold ecosystems together? We know of some, like the great plains and the redwood forests, where lack of human management leads to ecosystem breakdown.

So are insects & plankton - if you remove them, a lot of ecosystems would fall apart.

Insects and plankton cannot purposefully prevent collapse. Only humans can do this.

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What we think of wild nature is nothing compared to what used to exist.

Schools of fish so dense they would bring boats to a halt in the middle of the Atlantic. North America had more large wildlife than Africa. Whales as far as the eye could see all day long. Walruses in the Thames in London.

I did a couple video essays on what I learned from a wonderful book The Once and Future World:

My video essays: https://youtu.be/ZLAvBiols2Y and https://youtu.be/U4NZdciDozI

The book: https://www.amazon.com/Once-Future-World-Nature-Could/dp/030...

Re: Coyotes are being seen on the empty streets of San Francisco

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Coyotes are terrorizing the once inhabited city.

If you are a grown adult, coyotes aren't that dangerous or scary. They aren't very big. They will attack small pets and children that are alone, but they typically leave adult humans alone. I used to go for six mile walks in the High Desert for exercise. I routinely ran into coyotes. They never bothered me. I did tell my children to not go out alone at night. There had been two or three attacks on children in the pre…

> lone coyotes are known to not be particularly dangerous to adult humans

This is an important qualifier; they are not always alone.

Re: Coyotes are being seen on the empty streets of San Francisco

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I walk a lot all over San Francisco, including at night. I’ve been seeing coyotes in the streets for at least a year now. Several times in North Beach, a couple times in the dogpatch/China basin area by the ballpark, etc. My phone doesn’t take great photos in low light, but I posted what photos I can on my Twitter [1] and Instagram and Facebook to try and get the word out. At this point I kind of just assumed everyone realized they are around.

[1] https://twitter.com/okgodoit/status/1082425011388829696

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Walking around my neighborhood and the silence is absolutely sublime. Airplanes, cars, highway noise, all diminished. The birds and chirps and friendly "Hellos" are amplified. It's bee n marvelous.

That reminds me about stories of people trying to record nature untouched by man-made sounds. It has become increasingly difficult to find locations which are purely nature. I wonder how much easier it has become since the number of people generating "work noise" has fallen so much? https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2012/sep/24/machine-...

Maybe in Europe, but in the US there is a ridiculous amount of untouched space a <20 miles from almost every major city with the exception of California and the north east.

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What we think of wild nature is nothing compared to what used to exist. Schools of fish so dense they would bring boats to a halt in the middle of the Atlantic. North America had more large wildlife than Africa. Whales as far as the eye could see all day long. Walruses in the Thames in London. I did a couple video essays on what I learned from a wonderful book The Once and Future World : My video essays: https://yout…

What amazed me was after reading Unbroken (WWII novel set in the pacific) was the incredible amount of sharks in hawaii and the surrounding islands. A family member who was in the pacific theatre backed this up. Shark schools so dense that sailors would be attacked after they fell in. This was barely 70 years ago so alot has changed in terms of animal population.

Re: Coyotes are being seen on the empty streets of San Francisco

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I walk a lot all over San Francisco, including at night. I’ve been seeing coyotes in the streets for at least a year now. Several times in North Beach, a couple times in the dogpatch/China basin area by the ballpark, etc. My phone doesn’t take great photos in low light, but I posted what photos I can on my Twitter [1] and Instagram and Facebook to try and get the word out. At this point I kind of just assumed everyon…

I live near twin peaks and seem them A LOT, the first pic in the article is on TP on the road to the top. They are frequently out during the day, one almost got hit by the 37 I was on a few months back.
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