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Coyotes are being seen on the empty streets of San Francisco

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Re: Coyotes are being seen on the empty streets of San Francisco

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Here in Santiago, Chile, where many neighborhoods are in complete lockdown, a wild Puma was seen roaming the streets[1]. This was their natural habitat before the city was established, and many of them still live in the mountains, which are not far from the busiest streets of Santiago. https://www.france24.com/en/20200324-wild-puma-captured-in-d...

Seattle has occasionally gotten mountain lions and bears in the city.

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/discovery-parks-co...

Re: Coyotes are being seen on the empty streets of San Francisco

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Here in England we don't have coyotes but just today I saw a pheasant walking down a deserted road nearby. It looked slightly confused.

Is that unusual where you are?

Over the past few years I've seen the odd pheasant within ten minutes walk of the centre of Basingstoke as well as the occasional deer sprinting across the ring road dual carriageway.

Hopefully we all get to see more wildlife as life quietens down a little and, at least in the UK, we can be sure not to encounter anything even remotely dangerous.

Re: Coyotes are being seen on the empty streets of San Francisco

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The first time I saw a Coyote was in broad daylight up on Corona Heights in San Francisco. I'd never even seen a photo of one before, but I knew what it was straight away because its face looked like Wile E Coyote!

A disturbing story I heard when living in Russia in my childhood was that if you see a wild animal in the city, it means that beasts have ran out of trash and waste to eat, and are getting more riskier, and you shouldn't be coming close to them unless you want to be eaten.

There's truth to that in the sense that most wild animals will avoid humans if they can. And, if you can get close to them, there's often something else wrong (maybe the animal is sick, etc.).

Re: Coyotes are being seen on the empty streets of San Francisco

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This makes me very happy. I wonder if we could some day come up with some way to coexist with nature instead of blindly blanketing it with asphalt and concrete.

Coyotes have already done an excellent job of coexisting with humans. They are one of the most successful species at adapting to human civilization. Pigeons, rats, roaches, etc. also quite successful.

> Coyotes have already done an excellent job of coexisting with humans

I have only seen them being 'successful' if are large tracts of land around the cities that they can live at. Would they be able to live in, say, Manhattan?

If not, as we expand the urban sprawl, they might become less successful... And coyotes are not the only species we should be worried about.

Re: Coyotes are being seen on the empty streets of San Francisco

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The "earth is healing, we are the virus" narrative is overblown (and ecofascistic), but it's good to remember that humans are not special. We push other life forms out of our spaces, but many of those life forms continue a marginal existence. The end of humanity would not be the end of life and being reminded of that is a useful check on our tendency to put ourselves at the center of "the" world (instead of just the…

Our concept of “world” includes and subsumes any animal concept of “world”. Chimpanzees may think of local forest as “the world” but our “world” includes their forest. This, compared to any other non-human species on earth, we are the center of “the” world.

In addition, our actions determine the fates of non-human species much more than their actions our fates.

Re: Coyotes are being seen on the empty streets of San Francisco

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The "earth is healing, we are the virus" narrative is overblown (and ecofascistic), but it's good to remember that humans are not special. We push other life forms out of our spaces, but many of those life forms continue a marginal existence. The end of humanity would not be the end of life and being reminded of that is a useful check on our tendency to put ourselves at the center of "the" world (instead of just the…

I don't think any ecofacist exists outside of 4chan

If eco-terrorists are a subset of eco-fascists, they certainly exist in the real world and are dangerous.

Re: Coyotes are being seen on the empty streets of San Francisco

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The "earth is healing, we are the virus" narrative is overblown (and ecofascistic), but it's good to remember that humans are not special. We push other life forms out of our spaces, but many of those life forms continue a marginal existence. The end of humanity would not be the end of life and being reminded of that is a useful check on our tendency to put ourselves at the center of "the" world (instead of just the…

Taking comfort in the potential extinction of humanity because at least there would be some non-sapient critters still around strikes me as an odd value system. Couldn't you make the analogous argument that the extinction of all life on Earth would be fine since it would have absolutely no effect on the vast majority of the universe?

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Re: Coyotes are being seen on the empty streets of San Francisco

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They are riding dolphins through the crystal clear canals of Venice, hunting swans.

This article literally cites dolphins in the Venice canals as fake news. Please read the article before you comment.

Please turn up the sensitivity on your sarcasm detector.
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