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Is employer-based health insurance a barrier to entrepreneurship?

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Re: Is employer-based health insurance a barrier to entrepreneurship?

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During our initial phases we lost a potential hire that we really wanted because we just couldn't afford to offer health insurance. They ended up taking a job with a similar startup in Toronto. We had our first hire leave primarily because we couldn't offer health insurance. I'm happy that we're in a place that we can offer those benefits now. Getting through those first couple of years was really tough. If my wife d…

I'm not in the US, this is a actual question.

Is this different in some fundamental way from not being able to offer a high enough salary?

Re: Is employer-based health insurance a barrier to entrepreneurship?

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Answer: Hell yes. Self-insurance is absurdly expensive while group insurance outside of an employer or credit union is harder to find than a Republican with a conscience. The lie that "Obama-Care kills small businesses and/or jobs" is a smokescreen for the truth: Healthcare reform would free employees from indentured health care servitude and allow small businesses to hire more competitively, creating more jobs.

The Republicans have been trying to kill employer based health care forever... it's the unions responsible for it.

But they don't want to replace it with anything other than everyone buys their insurance on the open market if they want coverage, which is why unions are against it. If they wanted to move to a full coverage system (single payer?), unions would be happy because everyone has healthcare.

Re: Is employer-based health insurance a barrier to entrepreneurship?

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post #6

During our initial phases we lost a potential hire that we really wanted because we just couldn't afford to offer health insurance. They ended up taking a job with a similar startup in Toronto. We had our first hire leave primarily because we couldn't offer health insurance. I'm happy that we're in a place that we can offer those benefits now. Getting through those first couple of years was really tough. If my wife d…

I don't want to sound like I'm attacking you, but the fact that you were able to start a company without providing health insurance or a salary sufficient to buy it individually is itself a problem. If your employees got sick, it would be spouses' companies or the public that would shoulder the cost.

The drag on entrepreneurialism would significantly heavier if companies and individuals weren't allowed to freeload.

Re: Is employer-based health insurance a barrier to entrepreneurship?

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post #21
post #6

During our initial phases we lost a potential hire that we really wanted because we just couldn't afford to offer health insurance. They ended up taking a job with a similar startup in Toronto. We had our first hire leave primarily because we couldn't offer health insurance. I'm happy that we're in a place that we can offer those benefits now. Getting through those first couple of years was really tough. If my wife d…

I'm not in the US, this is a actual question. Is this different in some fundamental way from not being able to offer a high enough salary?

Health insurance for companies is sold on a group basis and it's often much more difficult (and expensive) to negotiate a smaller group. If you do get a policy, good luck if anyone in your small group has a serious claim...

Re: Is employer-based health insurance a barrier to entrepreneurship?

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post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Republicans have been trying to kill employer based health care forever... it's the unions responsible for it.

But they don't want to replace it with anything other than everyone buys their insurance on the open market if they want coverage, which is why unions are against it. If they wanted to move to a full coverage system (single payer?), unions would be happy because everyone has healthcare.

No, they wouldn't be happy with that... they would get waivers from the single payer system... just like 650 of the 773 ObamaCare waivers currently go to unions.

Re: Is employer-based health insurance a barrier to entrepreneurship?

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Dont have immediate access to the paper. I agree it is a hurdle to overcome, but I don't really know how many startups ultimately don't get started or fail because of it especially if you look at the number of startups and entrepreneurs consistently popping up in the US compared to some countries where the government provides universal healthcare.

How is this problem overcome ? Ihave a few ideas but no real specifics. A website with specifics would be very useful.

Re: Is employer-based health insurance a barrier to entrepreneurship?

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post #8

Answer: Hell yes. Self-insurance is absurdly expensive while group insurance outside of an employer or credit union is harder to find than a Republican with a conscience. The lie that "Obama-Care kills small businesses and/or jobs" is a smokescreen for the truth: Healthcare reform would free employees from indentured health care servitude and allow small businesses to hire more competitively, creating more jobs.

The "Republican with a conscience" line is unfair. Life would be a lot easier if all the sociopaths in the world were on one side, and all the conscientious people on the other. But it's not like that.

Re: Is employer-based health insurance a barrier to entrepreneurship?

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post #25
post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not in the US, this is a actual question. Is this different in some fundamental way from not being able to offer a high enough salary?

Health insurance for companies is sold on a group basis and it's often much more difficult (and expensive) to negotiate a smaller group. If you do get a policy, good luck if anyone in your small group has a serious claim...

When my company was sold, it was done as an asset sale, rather than a stock sale, specifically so my business partner could keep the health insurance. He then paid for my policy in the post-sale "group" because it was cheaper for him to pay for him, his wife, me, and my wife, than it was for him to buy an individual policy for him and his wife.

(His wife had serious medical claims, and is essentially uninsurable without a bit of a group.)

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