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Upgraded Google Glass helps autistic kids “see” emotions

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Re: Upgraded Google Glass helps autistic kids “see” emotions

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Post by DoreenMichele »

MagnumPIG wrote: post #19
DoreenMichele wrote: post #11

It sounds to me like you could do a lot more to just educate the parents. You don't get mad and shout at a young child who has decided to put the silverware away. You talk to them about the process of making and serving dinner. He could have been shown that one way to make the silverware more orderly is set the table for everyone while Mom cooks. That was my response to my then five year old being impatient with dinn…

The example is just one example. For some parents, it's this but all the time with different things. ASD* kids don't learn like neurotypical kids and if you treat them the same you will quickly get exhausted. As someone who has had classes on this, you can't "educate" the kid out of being autistic, and many have tried. This technology is just an adaptive tool, and a great one if it works.

Yes. I'm aware. BTDT, got the t-shirt -- as noted in my two other comments in this very discussion.

Re: Upgraded Google Glass helps autistic kids “see” emotions

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Post by jasonlotito »

DoreenMichele wrote: post #11

It sounds to me like you could do a lot more to just educate the parents. You don't get mad and shout at a young child who has decided to put the silverware away. You talk to them about the process of making and serving dinner. He could have been shown that one way to make the silverware more orderly is set the table for everyone while Mom cooks. That was my response to my then five year old being impatient with dinn…

Honestly seems like you just read the first two paragraphs and stopped. As a father of two autistic children, it's more than just how to speak, or even explaining things if you are lucky enough that your children are verbal. This isn't about wearing the glasses long term, it's about a tool used to teach the children social skills. About recognizing facial expressions, an issue many autistics have.

This isn't about educating parents on how to talk to their children. It's about educating autistics on how to interpret faces in different people.

> Children are expected to quickly learn how to detect the emotions of their social partners and then, after they’ve gained social confidence, stop using the glasses.

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Post by btilly »

DoreenMichele wrote: post #18
scarejunba wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Situation is fictional to illustrate utility of device.

It's a lousy assumption then. Ick. Expect better of parents. I yelled at my special-needs son for opening the oven door and using it as a stepping stool to see what I was cooking. I wasn't mad. I was scared he would climb on it while the oven was hot. Because I wasn't mad and he heard me yell "no!!!" at full volume, he thought that's just how you pronounced the word and yelled it the first two weeks he began using it…

I wasn't mad. I was scared he would climb on it while the oven was hot.

The other fear here should be that it acts like a lever. The kid doesn't have to be that heavy to cause a free-standing stove to tip over.

This is not a hypothetical danger. https://www.consumerreports.org/cro/news/2010/11/one-year-ol... reports that over a thousand kids per year get injured this way and on average 1-2 of them die.

Re: Upgraded Google Glass helps autistic kids “see” emotions

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Post by jasonlotito »

gowld wrote: post #2

Some good info written in annoying marketing press release style. Would be good to get this as a phone app with a headmounted camera, since that's far cheaper than Google Glass + doctor's prescription.

> The glasses are not meant to be a permanent prosthesis. The kids do 20-minute sessions a few times a week in their own homes, and the entire intervention currently lasts for six weeks. Children are expected to quickly learn how to detect the emotions of their social partners and then, after they’ve gained social confidence, stop using the glasses.

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Post by [deleted] »

jasonlotito wrote: post #22
DoreenMichele wrote: post #11

It sounds to me like you could do a lot more to just educate the parents. You don't get mad and shout at a young child who has decided to put the silverware away. You talk to them about the process of making and serving dinner. He could have been shown that one way to make the silverware more orderly is set the table for everyone while Mom cooks. That was my response to my then five year old being impatient with dinn…

Honestly seems like you just read the first two paragraphs and stopped. As a father of two autistic children, it's more than just how to speak, or even explaining things if you are lucky enough that your children are verbal. This isn't about wearing the glasses long term, it's about a tool used to teach the children social skills. About recognizing facial expressions, an issue many autistics have. This isn't about ed…

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Re: Upgraded Google Glass helps autistic kids “see” emotions

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Post by [deleted] »

btilly wrote: post #23
DoreenMichele wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a lousy assumption then. Ick. Expect better of parents. I yelled at my special-needs son for opening the oven door and using it as a stepping stool to see what I was cooking. I wasn't mad. I was scared he would climb on it while the oven was hot. Because I wasn't mad and he heard me yell "no!!!" at full volume, he thought that's just how you pronounced the word and yelled it the first two weeks he began using it…

I wasn't mad. I was scared he would climb on it while the oven was hot. The other fear here should be that it acts like a lever. The kid doesn't have to be that heavy to cause a free-standing stove to tip over. This is not a hypothetical danger. https://www.consumerreports.org/cro/news/2010/11/one-year-ol... reports that over a thousand kids per year get injured this way and on average 1-2 of them die.

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Re: Upgraded Google Glass helps autistic kids “see” emotions

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Post by threatofrain »

Although it may be creepy from the perspective of privacy, for those who are okay with it, I imagine that children struggling with Theory of Mind performance might benefit from recording their everyday experiences, and then later having a trusted therapist offer guiding opinion. Google Glass seems to be amenable to something like that.

Re: Upgraded Google Glass helps autistic kids “see” emotions

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Post by skissane »

thedance wrote: post #14
DoreenMichele wrote: post #11

It sounds to me like you could do a lot more to just educate the parents. You don't get mad and shout at a young child who has decided to put the silverware away. You talk to them about the process of making and serving dinner. He could have been shown that one way to make the silverware more orderly is set the table for everyone while Mom cooks. That was my response to my then five year old being impatient with dinn…

The point is that autistic people may not possess a theory of mind. They do not understand or anticipate the desires and intentions of others, and may not be aware that other people even have desires and intentions. You can't explain dinner to them if they are unable to comprehend that you intend to make it and that you desire the space and time to do so efficiently.

> The point is that autistic people may not possess a theory of mind

Well, that claim is frequently made, but not everyone agrees that it has been sufficiently demonstrated. See: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6959478/

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