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Pandemics Depress the Economy, Public Health Interventions Do Not: 1918 Flu

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Re: Pandemics Depress the Economy, Public Health Interventions Do Not: 1918 Flu

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The problem is that it was being referred to as the Spanish Flu up until some people in the media took offense to Trump's coining of the phrase "Chinese Flu", so Spanish Flu needs to go if we're not wanting to look like hypocrites.

Why is this a problem?

Because it confuses people and ostracizes those who are not following along actively. It's like calling water dihydrogen monoxide. Not problematic, just not what it's called.

Re: Pandemics Depress the Economy, Public Health Interventions Do Not: 1918 Flu

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1918 Flu is a more accurate name and you seem to not have had any trouble with the meaning, so what's the problem?

The problem is that it was being referred to as the Spanish Flu up until some people in the media took offense to Trump's coining of the phrase "Chinese Flu", so Spanish Flu needs to go if we're not wanting to look like hypocrites.

I remember seeing it widely called the 1918 flu when there was a flurry of articles discussing it in November 2018.

Re: Pandemics Depress the Economy, Public Health Interventions Do Not: 1918 Flu

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post #17

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I don't see how striving for consistency by avoiding nation-shaming labels is a "problem". Trying to not be hypocritical is generally viewed as a good thing.

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CCP trolls are out in full force today. Best not to engage.

Re: Pandemics Depress the Economy, Public Health Interventions Do Not: 1918 Flu

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The very title of this paper suggests a deeply flawed conclusion. A sample size of one pandemic, from 100 years ago even, is used to generalize a conclusion that "Pandemics Depress the Economy, Public Health Interventions Do Not". Sure, there were multiple cities with varying levels of interventions, but you can only conclude that in the 1918 economy for that specific pandemic, the health interventions were good for…

Are you implying that we can’t draw conclusions from limited data sets? Surely there must be some value in looking at the last event, even if it was 100 years ago...

You have to think about confounding factors when considering only one event. The effects of the 1918 flu are completely overshadowed by the end of WWI. Thus you can't really draw many conclusions.

Re: Pandemics Depress the Economy, Public Health Interventions Do Not: 1918 Flu

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post #22
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem is that it was being referred to as the Spanish Flu up until some people in the media took offense to Trump's coining of the phrase "Chinese Flu", so Spanish Flu needs to go if we're not wanting to look like hypocrites.

I remember seeing it widely called the 1918 flu when there was a flurry of articles discussing it in November 2018.

It was referred to as either one until very recently. There was recently an attempt to rename this article on Wikipedia, in March 2020. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Spanish_flu#1918_flu,_not...

Re: Pandemics Depress the Economy, Public Health Interventions Do Not: 1918 Flu

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1918 Flu is a more accurate name and you seem to not have had any trouble with the meaning, so what's the problem?

The problem is that it was being referred to as the Spanish Flu up until some people in the media took offense to Trump's coining of the phrase "Chinese Flu", so Spanish Flu needs to go if we're not wanting to look like hypocrites.

For the record, Spanish flu was not named so because anyone believed it came from Spain, but because, in the midst of WWI, Spain was neutral and the only heavily-affected country that allowed reporting on the severity of the flu.

One hypothesis of its origin was the UK or USA. Maybe you should instead be calling it British flu or American flu.

Re: Pandemics Depress the Economy, Public Health Interventions Do Not: 1918 Flu

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post #26

And now the academy desperately tries to save face, as the COVID-19 pandemic starts to wind down, and the consequences of all the panic caused by the academy start to play out. This year will be remembered as the end of modern academia.

Is it winding down? Most of the US seems to be at early days of exponential growth still. Only a handful of countries seem to have things under control and even those places still have restrictions in place.

How are you concluding things are winding down?

Re: Pandemics Depress the Economy, Public Health Interventions Do Not: 1918 Flu

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I wouldn’t blame trump’s blatant racism on some people in the media

Calling it the Chinese Flu because it comes from China is only racist when you move the goal posts to redefine racism as such. There is evidence that this was what happened due to pandemics traditionally being named after where they originated. You can't move the goal posts without the media being on board with it.

> There is evidence that this was what happened due to pandemics traditionally being named after where they originated.

This is just false, most pandemics are named for where they had their greatest effects, or for really old ones, who wrote about it / was king at the time.

Before modern history, we had no idea where pandemics originated.

Re: Pandemics Depress the Economy, Public Health Interventions Do Not: 1918 Flu

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you implying that we can’t draw conclusions from limited data sets? Surely there must be some value in looking at the last event, even if it was 100 years ago...

You have to think about confounding factors when considering only one event. The effects of the 1918 flu are completely overshadowed by the end of WWI. Thus you can't really draw many conclusions.

You can't control for that effect?
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