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Re: Zoom iOS app sends data to Facebook even if you don’t have a Facebook account

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Post by leesalminen »

sneak wrote: post #25
claudeganon wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are there any guides for running your own setup with similar filtering functionality? Not keen to run all my traffic through some unknown VPN.

NextDNS doesn't send the traffic, just DNS (and, entirely encrypted via DoH, unlike normal DNS), but if you're concerned about it, something like pi-hole does much the same thing, and is self-contained/self-hosted.

I deployed a VPN+PiHole on a micro ec2 instance for use from my iOS devices. Works great. First i installed pihole and configured, then used this https://github.com/jawj/IKEv2-setup to setup the vpn. Took about 30 mins. Works great!

Re: Zoom iOS app sends data to Facebook even if you don’t have a Facebook account

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Post by sneak »

leesalminen wrote: post #31
sneak wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

NextDNS doesn't send the traffic, just DNS (and, entirely encrypted via DoH, unlike normal DNS), but if you're concerned about it, something like pi-hole does much the same thing, and is self-contained/self-hosted.

I deployed a VPN+PiHole on a micro ec2 instance for use from my iOS devices. Works great. First i installed pihole and configured, then used this https://github.com/jawj/IKEv2-setup to setup the vpn. Took about 30 mins. Works great!

Why do you trust AWS more with your traffic than an ISP?

Re: Zoom iOS app sends data to Facebook even if you don’t have a Facebook account

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Post by otterley »

bluesign wrote: post #30
otterley wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please don't misuse the term "fake news." Fake news has a specific meaning: false stories that have no basis in fact but have tantalizing headlines meant to attract attention. Attempting to change the meaning of the term dilutes its importance and introduces unnecessary confusion.

Actually this is exactly what fake news is, putting facts in different spotlight, and let people to reach wrong verdict: (also it is called propaganda) Even when reading the article, author is going between two sides, but considering headline and sub-headline, it is obvious it is at least clickbait and biased. - "Zoom iOS App Sends Data to Facebook Even if You Don’t Have a Facebook Account" + "This sort of data trans…

No it is not, and you're doing exactly the thing that is the problem (calling Fake News something other than its original definition). Examples of Fake News include:

* "69% of veterans disapprove of [Political Candidate]" (not actual poll results)

* Claiming a rally for a political candidate is being organized that does not exist

Another indicia of fake news is that it looks like it's coming from a legitimate news outlet - the graphics are there and it's attributed to a legitimate-sounding outlet (like "America News Network") but is not one.

It's fine if you want to call propaganda propaganda, but don't call it fake news. They are not identical.

Re: Zoom iOS app sends data to Facebook even if you don’t have a Facebook account

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Post by tdstein »

st3fan wrote: post #26

EVERY. SINGLE. APP. THAT. INCLUDES. THE. FACEBOOK. SDK. Even if you don't log in. The Facebook SDK sends data back. Hook your device up to an intercepting proxy and start up a few apps. 99% of them do this. I really wish Apple would put an end to this.

This! It isn't just Zoom. It's a known "feature" of the Facebook SDK.

Re: Zoom iOS app sends data to Facebook even if you don’t have a Facebook account

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Post by toomuchtodo »

tdstein wrote: post #34
st3fan wrote: post #26

EVERY. SINGLE. APP. THAT. INCLUDES. THE. FACEBOOK. SDK. Even if you don't log in. The Facebook SDK sends data back. Hook your device up to an intercepting proxy and start up a few apps. 99% of them do this. I really wish Apple would put an end to this.

This! It isn't just Zoom. It's a known "feature" of the Facebook SDK.

Can Apple be held liable by the CCPA as they are a reviewer with a gating process for iOS apps, allowing the Facebook SDK to be included?

Re: Zoom iOS app sends data to Facebook even if you don’t have a Facebook account

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Post by ChrisMarshallNY »

st3fan wrote: post #26

EVERY. SINGLE. APP. THAT. INCLUDES. THE. FACEBOOK. SDK. Even if you don't log in. The Facebook SDK sends data back. Hook your device up to an intercepting proxy and start up a few apps. 99% of them do this. I really wish Apple would put an end to this.

If they did, it would raise a ruckus.

There's a lot of developers that rely on these dependencies, and just blocking them would cause a major backlash.

Re: Zoom iOS app sends data to Facebook even if you don’t have a Facebook account

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Post by SlowRobotAhead »

godelski wrote: post #2

> There is nothing in the privacy policy that addresses [that data is being sent to Facebook] > The Zoom app notifies Facebook when the user opens the app, details on the user's device such as the model, the time zone and city they are connecting from, which phone carrier they are using, and a unique advertiser identifier created by the user's device which companies can use to target a user with advertisements So Zoo…

You think Zoom is doing it for fun? This is a revenue source right?

Re: Zoom iOS app sends data to Facebook even if you don’t have a Facebook account

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Post by hsshah »

leesalminen wrote: post #31
sneak wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

NextDNS doesn't send the traffic, just DNS (and, entirely encrypted via DoH, unlike normal DNS), but if you're concerned about it, something like pi-hole does much the same thing, and is self-contained/self-hosted.

I deployed a VPN+PiHole on a micro ec2 instance for use from my iOS devices. Works great. First i installed pihole and configured, then used this https://github.com/jawj/IKEv2-setup to setup the vpn. Took about 30 mins. Works great!

I have PiHole as well. How to verify that FB SDK requests are blocked by it?

Re: Zoom iOS app sends data to Facebook even if you don’t have a Facebook account

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Post by ryandrake »

Daniel_sk wrote: post #23

A lot of apps are doing it without the developers even knowing about (ask me how I know). You just integrate their SDK for social login or something else and it will start sending data to the mothership.

This is one of the reasons why you are supposed to audit your dependencies and understand what they do. There is no excuse for an app developer to ship their app and not know what it does.
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