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Re: Ask HN: How to self-study physics?

#131

For the love of God, don't use Feynman lectures to learn physics. That's something you read after you know physics, for relaxation and conceptual stuff. Resnick & Halliday is a much better freshman/sophomore book. Susskind's "theoretical minimum" is actually pretty good. http://theoreticalminimum.com/courses Fowler gives a pretty conventional undergraduate physics curriculum (adding Feynman in there somehow). If it w…

I can't believe I am reading a recommendation that someone with little background in E&M self-studies with Jackson. That book is incredibly difficult even with a great graduate-level professor.

+1. The Jackson book is notoriously difficult. I think Griffith's book might be better for a self-learner but, iirc, and I haven't read the book in more than 10 years now, he expects a pretty good understanding of applied calculus before you open the book, so read up on that! Best of luck with the studies OP.

Also, the look into the Feynman book QED once you have a little bit under your belt. Its a fun and pretty short read and there isn't much math at all. I also think its a fun thing to read while learning EM since it opens you mind up to the next subject down the line, QED.

Re: Ask HN: How to self-study physics?

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I was interested in this too as someone who's worked in web apps the last 8-10 years and was super inspired by the SpaceX Falcon Heavy landing (science fiction is now science fact!) I looked into graduate programs, especially those online, and found the JHU Space Systems Engineering program. The prerequisites for THAT program are a year of college Calculus and a year of college Physics. I'm currently taking that, "year", which is really just Physics I and II and Calculus I and II at Thomas Edison State University. They've been doing distance learning for decades.

The courses aren't super cheap, they're around $2,000 each, but having classmates, a mentor, deadlines, and a legit program to structure my learning around has been so helpful. Not to mention that my grades are legit for pre-reqs if I do want to go the full grad school route. I'm almost done with the I level courses and started the II level courses 2/3 of the way through the I.

I think a lot of people on here might say my approach is kind of basic (I see people recommending working differential equations or something to start), but I've found it really enlightening to start from the very beginning and things are starting to get challenging as I get into the second level, especially with Calculus. Maybe if you just looked up Physics I and II and Calc I and II curriculums, and got the textbooks (Conceptual Physics by Paul G Hewitt and Calculus: Early Transcendentals by Robert Smith) you could do a lot of the same exercises.

Hope that's helpful!

Re: Ask HN: How to self-study physics?

#133

For the love of God, don't use Feynman lectures to learn physics. That's something you read after you know physics, for relaxation and conceptual stuff. Resnick & Halliday is a much better freshman/sophomore book. Susskind's "theoretical minimum" is actually pretty good. http://theoreticalminimum.com/courses Fowler gives a pretty conventional undergraduate physics curriculum (adding Feynman in there somehow). If it w…

I can't believe I am reading a recommendation that someone with little background in E&M self-studies with Jackson. That book is incredibly difficult even with a great graduate-level professor.

The problems from undergrad (I think we used Purcell) were virtually identical. Jackson's book had problems which were more algebraically/computationally difficult, but otherwise; it was basically the same thing. It's a well written classic; no reason to use the book with slightly wimpier problems.

He asked me how to learn physics; not how to learn some wimpy undergrad physics which doesn't give you the big picture. Hindsight my undergrad E&M book was a waste of time, and we should have just used Jackson. I still have Jackson (and Eyges) on my shelf; the undergrad book was recycled years ago.

Re: Ask HN: How to self-study physics?

#134
If you can find Walter Lewin's courses online, they can get you through the first years of physics.

The main way to learn physics though, on your own or in a program, is by doing problems and labs. You can start by doing the coursework you find for an established class. Another is by working through problems in a text book. As for labs, hacking together what you can is both valuable and rewarding. A few examples are estimating absolute zero, measuring the coefficient of friction, exploring momentum with ball bearings.

A few other things that I have found work for me. First, work towards a goal. Whether that be to calculate the orbit of a planet, understand quantum tunneling, or estimate a dynamic process. The second is to take the time follow thoughts as far as you can, using the social communities and resources available on the web (quora, reddit, etc).

Re: Ask HN: How to self-study physics?

#135

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I can't believe I am reading a recommendation that someone with little background in E&M self-studies with Jackson. That book is incredibly difficult even with a great graduate-level professor.

academic virtue signaling. like people recommending TAOCP to people that don't know how to program or rudin (either one!) to people that don't know any math.

Interesting.

To me that’s just a subjective list the author likes.

The replies seem a bit on the level of “...but everyone knows really.”

I always took notions like “expert” virtue signaling to mean experts seem convinced we should all learn via the timelines they did.

Uni students versed in textbook physics, linear timelines for learning cause that’s how society taught them, are also experts in working cognitive theories. Incredible.

Re: Ask HN: How to self-study physics?

#136
Back in the day I self-studied through MIT OCW, and found it remarkably complete. It's better in quality than what you would get at almost all universities, including MIT itself (!), because only the best lecturers tend to get immortalized on OCW.

Going through the series 8.012, 8.022, 8.03, 8.033, 8.04, 8.044, 8.05, 8.06 will give you the core theoretical knowledge of a physics major. (I assume you already know all the relevant math background.) If you prefer lecture notes, I imagine the best thing is to go through David Tong's lecture notes [0] from start to finish, as these cover almost the entire Cambridge undergraduate curriculum very clearly. If you want textbooks, at least in America, the books one uses for these courses are pretty standardized, and Fowler's blog post lays out these standard choices. For more advanced books, I have a pretty extensive bibliography in the front matter of my personal lecture notes [1].

0: http://www.damtp.cam.ac.uk/user/tong/teaching.html 1: https://knzhou.github.io/#lectures

Re: Ask HN: How to self-study physics?

#137
post #81

I see a lot of people recommending Halliday and Resnick, but I used Serway- Physics for Scientists and Engineers in college and that textbook was one of the best I felt I ever read. Its been quite some time since I was in college though, maybe its fallen out of favor?

No, Serway's totally fine! But Halliday, Resnick, and Krane was written for honors freshman physics courses, so it's just kicked up a notch relative to the other intro books.

Re: Ask HN: How to self-study physics?

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post #113

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>The observer effect in physics can be trivially expressed and evaluated as a mutating getter in any programming language. >It cannot be expressed in any Mathematical grammar. What on earth are you trying to say...? There is a whole mathematical treatment of quantum mechanics, measurement effect included (several treatments). More to the point, any algorithm can be formalised in e.g. a Turing machine, or any other eq…

>Any algorithm can be formalised in e.g. a Turing machine, or any other equivalent universal model of computation Quoting http://math.andrej.com/2006/03/27/sometimes-all-functions-ar... >>The lesson is for those “experts” who “know” that all reasonable models of computation are equivalent to Turing machines. This is true if one looks just at functions from N toN. However, at higher types, such as the type of our func…

> In addition to the examples in the blog post linked above, you cannot express a mutating getter in Mathematics.

Neither can you express foobarish bamboozles...

Re: Ask HN: How to self-study physics?

#139
The second time I learned physics or other subjects is through history science and physicist biography books. This is not as efficient as physics textbooks, but fleshes out the how and why many of these ideas came about.

Re: Ask HN: How to self-study physics?

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post #115

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> Computational Universe is mutable/stateful/time-bound A bunch of functional programmers would like to have a word with you.

A bunch of functional programmers continue to insist that the Turing Machine has no ticker tape which stores state? Yeah. I know ;)

https://gabrielsw.blogspot.com/2012/04/purely-functional-tur...
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