Coronavirus patients start to overwhelm US hospitals

Post by drstewart » Thu, Mar 26, 2020, 3:48 PM UTC

DanBC wrote: post #143

brenden2 wrote: post #26

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I wrote a comment elsewhere about death rates in the US. 81 people per day is not an astronomical number for the most densely populated part of the country, in fact it's well within the normal number of deaths according to CDC data. In fact, just compared to heart disease alone, it might be slightly on the lower end.

A stable 80 deaths per day isn't that many, it's only 29,200 people per year. But with covid-19 the numbers of people dying is doubling every 3 days. 80, 160, 320, 640, 1280, 2560, 5120, 10,240, 20,480 Potentially Covid-19 would hit that 29200 figure in about 25 days from today.

Post by uxp » Thu, Mar 26, 2020, 3:49 PM UTC

ceejayoz wrote: post #159

uxp wrote: post #152

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Nope. Like I just stated in my edit, I'm not advocating that anyone forgo the flu shot, but that the flu shot is not 100% effective or 100% side effect free. It's not bias. It's a fact. My GP is the one that has specifically told me to avoid the shot because I have a history of complications with it. If you're capable, I'd love for you to diagnose me with some other mental disorder or logical fallacy, but please look…

Your edit says: > I'm very much aware of evidence and studies stating that its "impossible" to get the actual flu from the flu shot, yet I am walking proof of contrary evidence. This is the famous "anti-tiger rock" argument from the Simpsons. ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Much_Apu_About_Nothing ) You have evidence you got the flu. You do NOT have evidence you got it from the shot . > My GP is the one that has speci…

Post by DoreenMichele » Thu, Mar 26, 2020, 3:50 PM UTC

chkaloon wrote: post #154

DoreenMichele wrote: post #69

"To think that we're in New York City and this is happening," he added. "It's like a third-world country type of scenario. It's mind-blowing." Historically, when sexually transmitted disease outbreaks occurred in the US, social workers would ask for the names of everyone you had slept with if you were infected and they would contact them and screen them and treat them. This was effective in stopping outbreaks. We lar…

Interesting points (not sure why you're getting downvotes here). I also wonder if it would help if the medical "establishment" encouraged people to stay home even if they get symptoms, and only seek medical care for serious shortness of breath or if you have co-morbidities that are life-threatening. There is not effective treatment yet, so what is the point of standing in line at the ER? It would also have the effect…

Post by rrss » Thu, Mar 26, 2020, 3:50 PM UTC

vnchr wrote: post #34

Well, that’s some fear mongering. The article is all anecdotes. Most of the nurses and doctors they talked to are anonymous sources. According to the AHA[1], there are 6,146 hospitals in the US. There are 68,000 confirmed covid-19 cases in the US, and 33,000 of those cases are all in New York—almost 10x more than the next states (4.4k NJ, 3.2k CA)[2]. I don’t know the rate of hospitalization for the infected, but sym…

Post by rsynnott » Thu, Mar 26, 2020, 3:50 PM UTC

joshlemer wrote: post #58

beepboopbeep wrote: post #15

The American people are at the mercy of a rudderless death cult, and have increasingly been so over the past decade. It's coming to a head now. Oh, it seems I've been flagged.

Is "death cult" just a fancy way of insulting people nowadays? Or is the US administration literally associated with a religious movement that worships death or the dead?