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Government orders 10k ventilators from Dyson

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Re: Government orders 10k ventilators from Dyson

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Post by altacc »

lnsru wrote: post #2

“Dyson has had hundreds of engineers working round the clock to design the ventilators from scratch.” It blows my mind. Everybody now, instead of cooperating, tries to design a perfect ventilator.

I know what you're saying, but in this instance there's a fairly good technology & manufacturing fit between ventilators and Dyson's other products. More so than some car manufacturers.

Dyson's core business and knowledge involves small devices which move and filter air, often on battery power (yes, I'm simplifying!). So designing something that reuses their existing technology with minimal retooling of the factory might well be easier and quicker than adapting their factory to an existing design.

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Post by PJDK »

lnsru wrote: post #2

“Dyson has had hundreds of engineers working round the clock to design the ventilators from scratch.” It blows my mind. Everybody now, instead of cooperating, tries to design a perfect ventilator.

Dyson are working with Technology Partnership, a medical device manufacturer. Presumably they're working on a new design that takes advantage of the existing tooling and parts that Dyson have.

There's another consortium working to ramp up production of existing designs - seems sensible to try both approaches.

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Post by godzillabrennus »

lnsru wrote: post #2

“Dyson has had hundreds of engineers working round the clock to design the ventilators from scratch.” It blows my mind. Everybody now, instead of cooperating, tries to design a perfect ventilator.

Not everyone has the same raw materials, machinery, and/or budgets to work with.

It doesn’t make sense to collaborate when you are Dyson and can rely on in house everything to get going.

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Post by me551ah »

amlozano wrote: post #6

How hard are these things to build? It certainly looks like a complicated medical device, but is there a simpler DIY version that gets the job done?

Indian companies are working on some simpler versions which would cost about 100$.

https://twitter.com/anandmahindra/status/1243074972660027392

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Post by KaiserPro »

withouth a meaningful time line, this is all noise.

its a totally new design, which means its going to have to be re-certified.

The UK has had 2 months head start, 1 month if you take italy as a warning, 2 if you treat the "YOLO LETS JUST LET IT BURN THROUGH THE POPULACE."as a starting point.

Re: Government orders 10k ventilators from Dyson

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Post by altacc »

DanBC wrote: post #4

The government turned down an offer from the EU because Europe which is a bit worrying. There are plenty of medical equipment manufacturers in the UK who've made these exact products before, or very similar products, and who know the rules and regulations well. They've offered to help, but not heard anything back from the government. https://twitter.com/BBCNewsnight/status/1242949236762738692 These are the kinds of t…

Dyson and others efforts are additional to the two ventilator manufacturers in the UK, who have already received orders for about as much as they can produce.

From the article: "...the government thinks it can procure a further 8,000 from existing domestic and international suppliers"

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Post by dmos62 »

DanBC wrote: post #4

The government turned down an offer from the EU because Europe which is a bit worrying. There are plenty of medical equipment manufacturers in the UK who've made these exact products before, or very similar products, and who know the rules and regulations well. They've offered to help, but not heard anything back from the government. https://twitter.com/BBCNewsnight/status/1242949236762738692 These are the kinds of t…

Mind bending. Hope it's a one-off case.

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Post by jonrimmer »

lnsru wrote: post #2

“Dyson has had hundreds of engineers working round the clock to design the ventilators from scratch.” It blows my mind. Everybody now, instead of cooperating, tries to design a perfect ventilator.

There is a separate, co-operative effort by a consortium of manufacturers to improve and mass produce an existing ventilator design.

But with a project of this importance, while it makes sense to pool resources, you can't realistically have every company and every engineer co-operating on the same project. So it also makes sense to have several, independent efforts running in parallel.

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