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Billionaires Want People Back to Work. Employees Aren’t So Sure

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Re: Billionaires Want People Back to Work. Employees Aren’t So Sure

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Post by vavooom »

317070 wrote: post #10

I'm using my quarantine time to read Piketty's "Capital in the 21st century". I'm actually pretty sure I'm _not_ going back to work if it risks my health. And it is obvious that the rentiers of our economy want the non-rentiers to go back to work. The rentiers actually have little to lose. The article states they might get sick, but if we're being realistic, they are very well sheltered against the collapse of the he…

One of two books I plan to read as well! Starting with a re-read of Thomas Sowell's "Basic Economics" as a refresher on the field.

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Post by BurningFrog »

Traster wrote: post #41
chungy wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> In part because they've realized that they can complete their core work duties in less time, with less distractions, and zero commuting. The first two depend _very_ heavily on both your home and office environments. It is certainly not true for myself.

Absolutely, I'm getting very tired of the constant hacker news posts telling me that working from home is the future, that I'm getting twice as much done in half the time. I'll tell you what I have, I have chronic back pain from my uncomfortable dining room chairs and chronic anger at the fact I can't get timely answers to my quesitons. Some people like working from home, fine, but for many of us it's just not right.

You need to put some real money into good home office furniture, if you work there permanently.

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Post by enahs-sf »

cushychicken wrote: post #8

What if, at the tail end of all this, a bunch of people find that they've tried remote work and decided: "Hey - this fucking rules! " In part because they've realized that they can complete their core work duties in less time, with less distractions, and zero commuting. Maybe - just maybe - this could be the unplug that helps people prioritize the things that they enjoy over their work. I recognize that's a viewpoint…

My company threw in the towel as soon as this whole thing started and has since adopted a "remote first" ideology. This means a block for meetings from 12 to 1pm PDT with no meetings to accommodate folks with kids needing to feed them and allowing children in zoom meetings. It hasn't been exactly smooth sailing, but it's starting to work.

I'm sure the guys with the spreadsheets in the back would love to knock off that expensive SF office space as a line item.

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Post by JMTQp8lwXL »

JshWright wrote: post #28
cushychicken wrote: post #8

What if, at the tail end of all this, a bunch of people find that they've tried remote work and decided: "Hey - this fucking rules! " In part because they've realized that they can complete their core work duties in less time, with less distractions, and zero commuting. Maybe - just maybe - this could be the unplug that helps people prioritize the things that they enjoy over their work. I recognize that's a viewpoint…

I think it's likely the exact opposite will happen. People are being thrown into seriously sub-optimal remote working experiences, and their productivity is likely to suffer for it. This will result in companies being less likely to consider remote working a viable path.

Forced working from home while during a pandemic. It's nothing like working from home under more normal circumstances.

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Post by unnouinceput »

Then those billionaires should pour some of their billions into research to find a cure. Even one that is not perfect, like the one we have for HIV/AIDS currently, should do the trick. A HIV positive going treatment still has the virus but the plethora of drugs it takes daily stops AIDS from developing. Just ask Magic Johnson, he's doing it for almost 3 decades now.

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Post by altoidaltoid »

objektif wrote: post #17

“No one reached out to me and said, ‘As a senior citizen, are you willing to take a chance on your survival in exchange for keeping the America that all America loves for your children and grandchildren?’” Patrick said. “If that’s the exchange, I’m all in.” This is from Dan Patrick, Texas Lt Gov. who doesn't want to sacrifice their lives for S&P 500?

one way to fix the Social Security funding shortfalls...

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Post by hinkley »

cycrutchfield wrote: post #9
asdfman123 wrote: post #7

Okay, so if we let the infection rip, what's their plan to deal with the massive wave of people suffocating on their own phlegm? Dig a trench?

Not their problem.

Until someone they consider a peer gets it, and then they'll change their tune.

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Post by munk-a »

TheBlight wrote: post #26
asdfman123 wrote: post #7

Okay, so if we let the infection rip, what's their plan to deal with the massive wave of people suffocating on their own phlegm? Dig a trench?

I know this won't be a popular take but I haven't seen any compelling data to indicate what we're dealing with is any more deadly than a cold. No one has any idea how many people have been infected by this virus. It is assuredly many many more than current tests have revealed as the only people being tested are healthcare workers and at-risk individuals. I wouldn't be surprised if over a million people in the U.S. ha…

There are sources out there you can trivially find to better inform yourself, please do so.
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