I guess this means Safari won't support persistent storage anytime soon. I was looking forward to it becoming a standard API. https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/StorageMana...
Private client-side-only PWAs are hard, but now Apple made them impossible
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Re: Private client-side-only PWAs are hard, but now Apple made them impossible
#432Does this also mean you'll have to re-login to websites every 7 days? (Sorry, not very familiar with web tech!)
No, you'll have to re-login only if you haven't been to the site in the last 7 days.
Re: Private client-side-only PWAs are hard, but now Apple made them impossible
#433Do any lawyers out there know if Apple's sabotage of PWA's by their inaction or "features" like this could be considered anti-competitive behavior for an anti-trust lawsuit?
Re: Private client-side-only PWAs are hard, but now Apple made them impossible
#434Did PWA's take off? What are some famous/big PWA's now? I can't remember ever "installing" anything in a browser as an app, or even being asked if I wanted to do it. Am I misunderstanding what they are?
Re: Private client-side-only PWAs are hard, but now Apple made them impossible
#435Earlier quoted context omitted.
"Web applications added to the home screen are not part of Safari and thus have their own counter of days of use."[1] From WebKit: [1] https://webkit.org/blog/10218/full-third-party-cookie-blocki... A Note On Web Applications Added to the Home Screen As mentioned, the seven-day cap on script-writable storage is gated on after seven days of Safari use without user interaction on the site.” That is the case in Safari.…
How is this any better?? I don't expect apps I install - native or PWA - to clear their data if I don't use them every 7 days. That's crazy!
I'm not sure I understand how it is "installed" if you aren't adding it to your homescreen?
Isn't that just visiting a webpage?
Re: Private client-side-only PWAs are hard, but now Apple made them impossible
#436I don't understand what the problem is.
I can easily go to the settings area and delete my entire browser cache (Remove All Website Data), in fact if you are running low of space it even tells you to do it.
Why are people assuming things stored on a browser are a good place to store things. Nothing stored on a browser should be assumed to be forever.
Re: Private client-side-only PWAs are hard, but now Apple made them impossible
#437Did PWA's take off? What are some famous/big PWA's now? I can't remember ever "installing" anything in a browser as an app, or even being asked if I wanted to do it. Am I misunderstanding what they are?
devdocs.io is the most successful example I'm aware of. I've never "installed" it as an app, as I don't use a browser that supports that (basically Edge, Safari or Android Chrome), but I've certainly relied on its ability to load without an internet connection for train/plane journeys.
Re: Private client-side-only PWAs are hard, but now Apple made them impossible
#438Perhaps this style of app, on iOS devices, drains more battery power than deemed reasonable?
Re: Private client-side-only PWAs are hard, but now Apple made them impossible
#439Do any lawyers out there know if Apple's sabotage of PWA's by their inaction or "features" like this could be considered anti-competitive behavior for an anti-trust lawsuit?
Not a lawyer but probably not. There’s many ways to make an App for their platforms. Just because people want to use web technologies is an implementors decision.
Re: Private client-side-only PWAs are hard, but now Apple made them impossible
#440Would it be possible for Apple to relax the 7 day limit for apps that are strictly client side only? I.e. sandbox the apps to not allow access to any remote resources? It seems to me the opportunity to exploit a user's privacy would be very limited without exfil.
Maybe, but it would only apply to a subset of PWAs. For example OP's RSS reader must access remote resources.