The problem is a global lack of preparation for a pandemic of this nature, despite multiple warning shots in the last couple of decades. The problem is incompetent, complacent government, and the political processes which enable it, and lately, even reward it. Blaming the CDC seems pointless. There are any number of institutions which could have done better. The thing is you don't want to be relying on everything goi…
> The problem is incompetent, complacent government, and the political processes which enable it, and lately, even reward it. Whilst I entirely agree with this statement, I actually doubt that any political party that stood on a platform of pandemic-preparedness, and the budgetary spending required for such, would have been voted into Government anyway. We, the people, have been voting for that which we believe to ad…
CDC coronavirus testing decision likely to haunt nation for months to come
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#312Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm curious about why this is being downvoted.
You're comparing the Trump and Obama administrations handling of different diseases and it looks like you are making a partisan point. This is the early phase of a crisis. Now is the time to call on leaders to do things; not to politic about whether something could have happened a bit earlier or not. Trump is still going to be held responsible for the administration's performance; but now isn't the time. Nobody is go…
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#313The damage will be much longer lasting than this. The Chinese bought the US precious weeks to prepare while it locked down vast numbers of its own population. The disaster could have been prevented through a vigorous testing/quarrantine program in Washington and California. At every step of the way the US either bungled testing, or actively discouraged testing. It's been nothing but lies and mistakes from the start.…
These problems are not due to an "administration". The rot of American institutions is deep. The competence and coherence of the entire American civil service and civil life has fallen precipitously in the last 20 years, and, in part because of their irrational fixation on this administration, people still cannot wrap theirs head around the fact that problem is in personnel and structure. The CDC botched the developm…
Re: CDC coronavirus testing decision likely to haunt nation for months to come
#314Earlier quoted context omitted.
Interesting preface. In the UK we were told that masks were simply not effective, there was no need for them, they would not hinder the spread of infection. Similarly with closing schools: "the gov has this special plan that uses herd immunity, you idiot, so we don't need to close schools" [actually it's always "Boris has a plan", I can't understand why -- if it's the PM's plan then it's probably entirely ignorant of…
I wonder if there was a lie of omission by the health professionals: "N95 Masks won't help the spread [because the general public will touch their face without washing their hands after removing the mask, thus masking the mask a moot point]" ~ the brackets representing the "lie of omission" part. I honestly don't know, just wondering out loud...
No, assume people can follow instructions and disseminate the truth, not a revised version of the truth, or you risk credibility as clearly has been damaged on the CDC's part. There are dire consequences when a public health authority has no authority anymore due to lying.
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You’ll still get looks for wearing a mask. It’s ridiculous.
Well, I am in the Midwest and there is hardly anything going on here, so yeah, wearing a mask would be kind of out of place. Anyways, I basically stay away from people anyhow. Our hospitals here are all losing money waiting for a crowd that may never arrive. Kids are silly miserable. We're losing our way of life and our nation to mass hysteria and we need to be strong instead.
There is no clear way to be strong. If we quarantine, which we've started to do, but could continue, people may starve. If we don't, an equal or greater number of people may die from the disease. It's wrong to say that having a lockdown isn't strength, though, since it is something you can't do without strong resources backing your nation.
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I think it has to do with their (incorrect) assessment of the situation. Rather than reevaluate their assessment (as that would increase their anxiety), they rationalize your assessment as overreaction.
It is not an airborne infection.
Re: CDC coronavirus testing decision likely to haunt nation for months to come
#317Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't understand this mentality when other Western Nations are going through the exact same thing. Did the administration cause every other countries problems with containing the virus too?
In some regards, I'd argue yes; from my perspective, many western democracies have been following the US down its path to post-truth politics for years, as other countries' politicians have seen how effective the strategy of simply denying or ignoring anything you don't like is, and sought to replicate the success that (particularly) the Republican party has had in driving voters deeper into their partisan blocs.
Re: CDC coronavirus testing decision likely to haunt nation for months to come
#318Earlier quoted context omitted.
You’ll still get looks for wearing a mask. It’s ridiculous.
Well, I am in the Midwest and there is hardly anything going on here, so yeah, wearing a mask would be kind of out of place. Anyways, I basically stay away from people anyhow. Our hospitals here are all losing money waiting for a crowd that may never arrive. Kids are silly miserable. We're losing our way of life and our nation to mass hysteria and we need to be strong instead.
Wow! You are in a better situation than most of the rest of the world. What is there to complain about?
> Kids are silly miserable.
Oh. That's awful. We should definitely let people die to prevent that.
Re: CDC coronavirus testing decision likely to haunt nation for months to come
#319* React to protect people, this is what Europe is doing.
* React to protect large businesses, this is what the US is doing by trying to prop up the market, lie to the citizens about the dangers, actively block testing.
Re: CDC coronavirus testing decision likely to haunt nation for months to come
#320Earlier quoted context omitted.
World War 3 supposedly started in January by some accounts, but is nearly forgotten now. What's some mystery flu in China got on that as far as headlines go? Sure, we can answer this with a bit of hindsight, but it's amazing how quickly we forget even wildly incorrect predictions.
Can you show some predictions of World War 3 imminently happening by news sources? Say CNN.
I was on Google news in January and you'd have thought that WW III was already started.