Why is there no arrest warrant against the managers and owners of Clearview here on the EU? They are using PII of hundreds of millions of Europeans without written consent. That alone should mean billions of euros in fines.
There is no arrest warrant for Google, Facebook or ad network employees either despite them violating the GDPR on a daily basis and very large scale. Granted, the GDPR doesn't say anything about arresting offenders, but the companies should at least be investigated and fined, which isn't happening either. The GDPR is a joke.
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#122Honest question - why is author so shocked, given that all the information was public or published by himself?
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#123Earlier quoted context omitted.
My Recatcha policy: https://mastodon.cloud/@dredmorbius/102054627041751386
Ironically that triggered the CloudFlare check for me.
A recent change on that instance, and one causing other issues:
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#124Why is there no arrest warrant against the managers and owners of Clearview here on the EU? They are using PII of hundreds of millions of Europeans without written consent. That alone should mean billions of euros in fines.
There is no arrest warrant for Google, Facebook or ad network employees either despite them violating the GDPR on a daily basis and very large scale. Granted, the GDPR doesn't say anything about arresting offenders, but the companies should at least be investigated and fined, which isn't happening either. The GDPR is a joke.
As long as they process openly available data I do not see a difference from searching your name on the internet in terms of the gdpr. They also responded to the request (maybe not fast enough) . Deletion would be a difficult thing maybe to be fully compliant to eu regulations .if its ethical is another story...
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#125Earlier quoted context omitted.
There is no arrest warrant for Google, Facebook or ad network employees either despite them violating the GDPR on a daily basis and very large scale. Granted, the GDPR doesn't say anything about arresting offenders, but the companies should at least be investigated and fined, which isn't happening either. The GDPR is a joke.
https://www.enforcementtracker.com/
This exactly, it's very much happening even if you're not reading it in the news every time.
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#126Earlier quoted context omitted.
There is no arrest warrant for Google, Facebook or ad network employees either despite them violating the GDPR on a daily basis and very large scale. Granted, the GDPR doesn't say anything about arresting offenders, but the companies should at least be investigated and fined, which isn't happening either. The GDPR is a joke.
As long as they process openly available data I do not see a difference from searching your name on the internet in terms of the gdpr. They also responded to the request (maybe not fast enough) . Deletion would be a difficult thing maybe to be fully compliant to eu regulations .if its ethical is another story...
How is a Facebook profile openly available? Facebook probably gets pii via unreasonably broad blanket opt-outs, which is itself problematic, then it is shared with / not kept safe from a third party.
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#127Earlier quoted context omitted.
https://www.enforcementtracker.com/
This exactly, it's very much happening even if you're not reading it in the news every time.
If you search for Google, you will find one 50M fine. What is the 4% of Google revenue's again? 50M is filed under cost of doing business or the corruption budget if you are not that generous.
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#129It's interesting how collecting or distributing files with music is a grave crime and corporations can take down anything they don't like with a half-assed DMCA request, with no repercussions for "mistakes", but a person's face image doesn't belong to that person and the same corporations can safely collect and distribute these images for profit.
Actually, in Europe it is illegal to collect personally identifiable information of people without their consent. GDPR and all that. I am surprised they haven't been fined out of existence yet.
Just a correction - consent isnt the only legal basis. Thought it was important to correct you here so others reading the comment wouldn't get the impression that no consent = illegal
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#130Would you help and use Clearview if it was being used in your governments strategy against coronavirus? Would you volunteer your time to tag images with your friends and acquaintances, to help slow down the virus? To do otherwise would be immoral and lead to the death of thousands, right? To those worried about that, it's just temporary. It would just last a few months and then you don't need to worry about it any mo…
Yuval Noah Harrari, "The world after coronavirus" https://www.ft.com/content/19d90308-6858-11ea-a3c9-1fe6fedcc... Bruce Schneier, "Emergency Surveillance During COVID-19 Crisis" https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2020/03/emergency_sur... I'd have very grave misgivings.
Thank you for the links. Listening to them reminds me of my interaction with similar thoughts.
I was in a startup accelerator near the end of last year and many of the business ideas that some of my teams came up with were data oriented and how it could be better gathered or used for good purposes. Or for profit and control. For example measuring people's location, driving speed and brake force to give discounts for car insurance. We found out that some companies do this already, and others are asking for it. And that was not even in an emergency context.
From another viewpoint, the more data we get, the more sensitive we will get for the "crises", or we can define simpler things as "crises" anyway. And that will demand more data gathering. If we allow using data to stop Coronavirus for example, we can call "the flu" as something to tackle, if only we had more information about the people. Why not the cold, too, after the flu?
I feel that it is inevitable.