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Re: CoreJS: State of the project? Looks like dead. Any official fork?

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Post by SaxonRobber »

throw_m239339 wrote: post #88
ankka wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And nobody wants to take responsibility and maintain it either, not even now.

I'm not surprised at all. I bet there are plenty of multi-billion dollars companies using that project who never contributed a cent to its author yet sent their developers on GitHub to complain about the state of the project. It happened to a few maintainers I know. These companies save millions in development cost on the back of a few developers in developed countries. This is open source, I get it, but this isn't f…

That's what happens when the Free is removed from FOSS.

Re: CoreJS: State of the project? Looks like dead. Any official fork?

#92

Post by ariabuckles »

FYI it looks like this project isn't necessarily dead; another contributor who merged a PR 2 days ago just posted a short update: https://github.com/zloirock/core-js/issues/767#issuecomment-...

> Stop spam & panic! I have rules for this repo and i have some time for fixing critical bugs and major updates.

Re: CoreJS: State of the project? Looks like dead. Any official fork?

#93

Post by ivan_gammel »

robbrown451 wrote: post #80
ivan_gammel wrote: post #53

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I can read Russian. According to the information from the court: 1) he lost an appeal, meaning that his case was in the court at least two times. 2) the dead victim was not lying on the road, that’s false information. She was trying to remove other victim from the crosswalk. Knowing the motorcycle culture in Russia I would not be sympathetic to anyone there - it has nothing to do with safety on the road.

Maybe the person lying on the street should shoulder some of the blame. I do think courts in other parts of the world would have seen a lot of mitigating factors.

I think that it’s better to stop victim-blaming. There’s no reason to assume that in this case justice failed. Russian courts aren’t perfect, but they are not worse than anywhere but few countries.

Re: CoreJS: State of the project? Looks like dead. Any official fork?

#94

Post by throw_m239339 »

SaxonRobber wrote: post #91
throw_m239339 wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not surprised at all. I bet there are plenty of multi-billion dollars companies using that project who never contributed a cent to its author yet sent their developers on GitHub to complain about the state of the project. It happened to a few maintainers I know. These companies save millions in development cost on the back of a few developers in developed countries. This is open source, I get it, but this isn't f…

That's what happens when the Free is removed from FOSS.

Absolutely, free means free to take and use, but free also means freedom of the developers from owing anybody anything or any responsibility.

FOSS became entitlement for big companies to demand free work from third world country developers while making millions...

Re: CoreJS: State of the project? Looks like dead. Any official fork?

#95

Post by baybal2 »

jakear wrote: post #2

What a wild ride this has been. Looking at the police report, I do wonder what the punishment would be in other countries. It seems the victims were laying drunk on the ground in dark clothing at top a hill (edit: hill not mentioned in police report, but seems logical given the headlight statement), causing the headlight beams to not illuminate them. On top of that, incoming traffic blinded the driver. This is of cou…

This is the very reason Russians buy dashcams by tonnes.

Sold few thousands of them to Russian retailers at around 2008-2009, when I worked in a trade company in Singapore.

Previously they were used by Taiwanese taxis to record what's going on inside the car.

Russian's immediately found an inventive use for it, and instead made them to videolog what's going on in front of the car.

Re: CoreJS: State of the project? Looks like dead. Any official fork?

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Post by robbrown451 »

ivan_gammel wrote: post #93
robbrown451 wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe the person lying on the street should shoulder some of the blame. I do think courts in other parts of the world would have seen a lot of mitigating factors.

I think that it’s better to stop victim-blaming. There’s no reason to assume that in this case justice failed. Russian courts aren’t perfect, but they are not worse than anywhere but few countries.

When you are sending someone to jail, you want to make sure of their degree of fault, don't you?

The person lying on the ground wasn't killed. The woman trying to drag him out of the road was. She was presumably innocent. (although she may have played a role as well, I understand she was intoxicated too, but in the moment she was trying to help her friend to safety)

Regardless, who suffered is a completely separate issue from who is responsible. Do you really want to distort the process of determining who is responsible, out of fear of "victim blaming"? It could have happened ever-so-slightly differently, and it might have been the motorcyclist who was killed. Does that automatically shift responsibility?

Re: CoreJS: State of the project? Looks like dead. Any official fork?

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Post by pvorb »

fiblye wrote: post #38
catalogia wrote: post #28

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How much of this is due to the immediate physiological effects of alcohol (e.g. impaired reaction time, etc) and how much of it is chronic depressed alcoholics disregarding their own well-being and possibly committing suicide? I've walked home drunk from bars more than a few times and I've never experienced any trouble using crosswalks like normal. I'm pretty certain it's much safer than driving home drunk (not that…

Driving at night down narrow streets, I've had some people pop out from behind a wall in front of me. Fortunately everyone involved has always had good reaction times, so I don't think I've killed anybody yet. Somebody who's not really thinking, or just stumbling around and being goofy. Lots of people including myself have said "DUDE wouldn't it be funny if we did [X incredibly stupid thing]?" while unreasonably drun…

> I don't think I've killed anybody yet

If you can't tell for sure, are you certain that you weren't drunk yourself?

Re: CoreJS: State of the project? Looks like dead. Any official fork?

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Post by cycomanic »

SaxonRobber wrote: post #66

Jesus npm is a cancerous dumpster fire. Guy must have been a saint to continue maintaining the project in spite of all of entitled "developers" using his package and scolding him for DARING TO ASK FOR A DIME.

Actually, while I think npm is the worst example, I am of the opinion that this is the largest issue facing OSS today.

Companies using lots of OSS packages without ever giving back a dime. The argument is always that this helps developers get a job, but often enough the jobs don't allow the developers to work full time on those packages, but they are still somehow expected to continue the work in their past-time.

The guy posted the results of his call for funding, he got to $50 a month on patreon! For maintaining a package that likely 100s or 1000s of companies depend on for the work.

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