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Re: I got my file from Clearview AI

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I used to think some of my peers were being overly cautious by purposely trying to obfuscate their online profile. Back in the day, I couldn’t care less about putting in effort to try to protect my online privacy. I have slowly but surely come to see the light. Now it’s at the forefront of my mind at all times. Learning about this company (and I imagine other unknown entities are doing the same) has encouraged me to…

Replacing pictures wont help (they already have them), GDPR request for deletion might work better but on the other side you also give them your confirmed identity. With companies as shady as this one, they might just set a flag in their database and add your documents data to them.

As you have figured out on your own, public should listen to some people warning about this for more than decade instead of making fun from them (tin foil hat,...).

And if anyone thinks that google and facebook are not having their own versions of clearview, think again. Any form of online presence under real name has to be minimized and it is doable but this would mean that all personal narcissistic pushes would need to be stopped (or should I say - cured) and refrain yourself from using any personal information (no, you wont secure my account by having my phone number, provide me TOTP if the security is really the reason) on the internet while avoiding it beeing stolen by apps (application firewalls, sending back fake data and not using any google applications including removing their preinstalled spyware by rooting the phone).

I can guarantee you that you wont be missing anything relevant (I am doing it for more than decade). But. Will you do that? Can you do that? Do you want to do that? Most people just rather take blue pill.

Re: I got my file from Clearview AI

#63
post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually, in Europe it is illegal to collect personally identifiable information of people without their consent. GDPR and all that. I am surprised they haven't been fined out of existence yet.

Probably because nobody in the EU currently has this company on their screens. Or because those who are critical of this company and its practices have not yet reported it to the relevant authorities. In Germany not only the GDPR regulation but also the so-called "right to the own picture" applies here.This means that no one may use/sell pictures of a person without explicit consent. Therefore, photographers must als…

There has been recent activity (article in german).

The article claims you could ask for deletion of your data without uploading your ID.

https://www.golem.de/news/gesichtserkennung-datenschuetzer-r...

Re: I got my file from Clearview AI

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post #9

I used to think some of my peers were being overly cautious by purposely trying to obfuscate their online profile. Back in the day, I couldn’t care less about putting in effort to try to protect my online privacy. I have slowly but surely come to see the light. Now it’s at the forefront of my mind at all times. Learning about this company (and I imagine other unknown entities are doing the same) has encouraged me to…

Just for the record, the journalist who broke the story on Clearview noted that Clearview AI has specifically demonstrated it isn't fooled by thispersondoesnotexist.com:

https://twitter.com/kashhill/status/1218542846694871040?s=20

You won't be giving them any info on you, but you won't be confounding them either.

Re: I got my file from Clearview AI

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post #64
post #9

I used to think some of my peers were being overly cautious by purposely trying to obfuscate their online profile. Back in the day, I couldn’t care less about putting in effort to try to protect my online privacy. I have slowly but surely come to see the light. Now it’s at the forefront of my mind at all times. Learning about this company (and I imagine other unknown entities are doing the same) has encouraged me to…

Just for the record, the journalist who broke the story on Clearview noted that Clearview AI has specifically demonstrated it isn't fooled by thispersondoesnotexist.com: https://twitter.com/kashhill/status/1218542846694871040?s=20 You won't be giving them any info on you, but you won't be confounding them either.

True, but at least it prevents them from linking accounts. It is equivalent to no profile picture, which you might not want to keep up appearances.

Re: I got my file from Clearview AI

#66

So will we see a new normal that if you delete your data, you’re considered suspicious as it looks like you might be hiding something. Personal data may soon become the same as a credit score. No data, high risk.

This is already here with Google if you use oBlock or uMatrix. Endless Captchas...

"We detected suspicious blah blah blah"

Re: I got my file from Clearview AI

#68

Given the „right to be forgotten“ shouldn‘t he be able to request all his data be deleted?

From the article:

> And remember that once you receive your data, you have the option to demand that Clearview delete it or amend it if you’d like them to do so.

Re: I got my file from Clearview AI

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post #64
post #9

I used to think some of my peers were being overly cautious by purposely trying to obfuscate their online profile. Back in the day, I couldn’t care less about putting in effort to try to protect my online privacy. I have slowly but surely come to see the light. Now it’s at the forefront of my mind at all times. Learning about this company (and I imagine other unknown entities are doing the same) has encouraged me to…

Just for the record, the journalist who broke the story on Clearview noted that Clearview AI has specifically demonstrated it isn't fooled by thispersondoesnotexist.com: https://twitter.com/kashhill/status/1218542846694871040?s=20 You won't be giving them any info on you, but you won't be confounding them either.

While reading the comment, I was thinking about overlaying faces with the Laughing Man instead of thispersondoesnotexist.

http://cdn.collider.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/ghost-in-...

Re: I got my file from Clearview AI

#70
post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually, in Europe it is illegal to collect personally identifiable information of people without their consent. GDPR and all that. I am surprised they haven't been fined out of existence yet.

Probably because nobody in the EU currently has this company on their screens. Or because those who are critical of this company and its practices have not yet reported it to the relevant authorities. In Germany not only the GDPR regulation but also the so-called "right to the own picture" applies here.This means that no one may use/sell pictures of a person without explicit consent. Therefore, photographers must als…

Well I would advise everybody to file a complaint to their local DPA. Even if you can oppose the processing, they rely on legitimate interest (doubtful their balancing act is acceptable) and they acquired the data in a legal way, they failed to inform the user of a second-hand data collection[1].

So If they have data on you, that is older than a month, and did not contacted you to inform you of it, you can file a complaint!

[1]https://github.com/LINCnil/Guide-RGPD-du-developpeur/blob/ma... (In French sorry)

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