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Re: I got my file from Clearview AI

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> not being anonymous is not such a big risk. the world has always been anonymous because of the lack of capability to track large amounts of data - until recently. Anonymity allows you safety from any one who seeks to predate you. I think that safety needs to be maintained. People stupidly put photos of themselves online, then face tag their friends. This allows third parties to identify your friends and circles, an…

No, long ago the world was a bunch of small groups of people that knew each other intimately. At the village and tribe level there was little or no anonymity. The offset was that there was also intimacy . The problem now is that we again have no anonymity, but there is none of the intimacy needed to offset the negative aspects of this (and we probably can't, I don't think intimacy scales the same way, but who knows).

The people who left their tribes (or were forced off) were effectively anonymous to any new group of people they might come across. So if you were kicked from your group for a misdeed, sure you could continue your bad deeds in the new group or you could turn over a new leaf without the weight of your past mistakes holding you back.

Re: I got my file from Clearview AI

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post #29

It's interesting how collecting or distributing files with music is a grave crime and corporations can take down anything they don't like with a half-assed DMCA request, with no repercussions for "mistakes", but a person's face image doesn't belong to that person and the same corporations can safely collect and distribute these images for profit.

It goes even further than corporations being able to request things from being taken down. Kim Dotcom's house was raided by the FBI in New Zealand over this. He isn't even an American!

Re: I got my file from Clearview AI

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This website does some crazy redirect loop between medium at the sub domain when opened without JS. How is that even possible?

Nothing magic, they're just sending a HTTP 302 redirect if they don't see a cookie. If you hit it with wget you'll see two 302s, one of them with the old "Moved Temporarily" text and the other with "Found". I'm not sure why you only get two with wget, possibly user-agent sniffing. Tracing with firefox's dev tools I see an initial JS redirect, but that may be a bug since I've got javascript disabled for medium. Alternatively it's a bug in NoScript and that's not good. Either way they'll toss a 302 with no js at all.

Re: I got my file from Clearview AI

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When it comes to information gathering, I have always assumed if it is technically possible to do, then some agency in the government is doing it. So even if people were able to shame all of Clearview's customers into not using them, that wouldn't stop this type of information gathering form going on.

Just because the government has nukes, doesn't mean citizens should have them. The government shouldn't have them, either, but there's not much citizens can do about that outside of revolt.

Meanwhile this company has been nothing but privacy abuses and lies to the public. If it isn't broken up by law, it will be interesting to see what the people do.

Re: I got my file from Clearview AI

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This website does some crazy redirect loop between medium at the sub domain when opened without JS. How is that even possible?

It returns a 302 header with this location:

https://medium.com/m/global-identity?redirectUrl=https%3A%2F...

Which then sends another location of:

https://onezero.medium.com/i-got-my-file-from-clearview-ai-a...

Which just ends up bouncing you back and forth, unless JS is allowed to percolate through. However, there is some useragent sniffing happening, so the exact set of headers changes.

Re: I got my file from Clearview AI

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The article is missing a link to the Clearview forms to request a copy of the data or request deletion: https://clearview.ai/privacy/requests

Even more incredible is that the opt out link requests a clear view of your face to proceed.

Even more incredible that it requires a picture of your ID

Re: I got my file from Clearview AI

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post #29

It's interesting how collecting or distributing files with music is a grave crime and corporations can take down anything they don't like with a half-assed DMCA request, with no repercussions for "mistakes", but a person's face image doesn't belong to that person and the same corporations can safely collect and distribute these images for profit.

It goes even further than corporations being able to request things from being taken down. Kim Dotcom's house was raided by the FBI in New Zealand over this. He isn't even an American!

>Kim Dotcom's house was raided by the FBI [...]

Source? The US asked for his extradition and the NZ authorities raided his home, as far as I know.

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