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Re: CDC coronavirus testing decision likely to haunt nation for months to come

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Post by wideasleep1 »

TheSpiceIsLife wrote: post #109
ykevinator wrote: post #104

People are blaming trump and while I'm no fan, the cdc is an embarrassment. How many decades did they have to prepare for disease control?

Didn't the Trump administration slash CDC funding? This claims so: https://www.businessinsider.com.au/trump-cuts-programs-respo... And here we have him saying "I'm a businessperson. I don't like having thousands of people around when you don't need them," Trump said. "When we need them, we can get them back very quickly." https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/trump-defend...

Not exactly. Again, 1 screen, but folks are seeing 2 different movies.

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/03/dems-misconstrue-trump-bud...

Re: CDC coronavirus testing decision likely to haunt nation for months to come

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Post by ironmagma »

electriclove wrote: post #129
aazaa wrote: post #121

The damage will be much longer lasting than this. The Chinese bought the US precious weeks to prepare while it locked down vast numbers of its own population. The disaster could have been prevented through a vigorous testing/quarrantine program in Washington and California. At every step of the way the US either bungled testing, or actively discouraged testing. It's been nothing but lies and mistakes from the start.…

Don't forget the mask shaming that was perpetuated in the US.

You’ll still get looks for wearing a mask. It’s ridiculous.

Re: CDC coronavirus testing decision likely to haunt nation for months to come

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Post by brown9-2 »

h2odragon wrote: post #47

Where was the media in this? Lots of scare stories about potential pandemics back to January, in the US media, but I dont recall much if any "the CDC is fucking up / not testing" coverage. Of course that kind of thing was probably being said in the froth of the fringe and conspiracy theorists, but thats all "fake news" and unmentionable now.

We didn’t know there was a huge testing problem until we had a huge amount of people who needed tests.

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Post by jopsen »

catalogia wrote: post #54
ghostpepper wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The smart countries are using drive-through testing.

In NYC more than half of the population doesn't own a car.

I guess taking an Uber isn't the best idea.

Maybe the driver would give you a bad rating if they have to drop you off a drive through test facility.

In practice, you can walk through too -- or have a friend swap you at home (at-least that's being contemplated some places).

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Post by [deleted] »

aazaa wrote: post #121

The damage will be much longer lasting than this. The Chinese bought the US precious weeks to prepare while it locked down vast numbers of its own population. The disaster could have been prevented through a vigorous testing/quarrantine program in Washington and California. At every step of the way the US either bungled testing, or actively discouraged testing. It's been nothing but lies and mistakes from the start.…

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Re: CDC coronavirus testing decision likely to haunt nation for months to come

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Post by jschwartzi »

brightball wrote: post #30
dominotw wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> FDA regulation only allowed the CDC to create a test wondering why this regulation exists and are there any guidelines for extreme situations.

I imagine it’s the same guidelines for most centralized regulations. People who believe that central control is good. Which is a much larger discussion.

I can tell you that in normal times the FDA does prevent a good amount of injuries and deaths simply by being a chilling force for medical device manufacturers. It's not a matter of religious fervor to sometimes prevent the marketing of something because it can potentially be harmful.

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Post by bshipp »

electriclove wrote: post #113
throwaway122378 wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What’s your point? The WHO lost all credibility. As late as January 14, 2020 the WHO tweeted that there is NO evidence of human to human transmission of covid-19 https://twitter.com/WHO/status/1217043229427761152?s=20

Both the WHO and the CDC have (deservedly) lost trust with the public.

I don't see any evidence in media or conversations that anything of the sort is true. If anyone has looked inept in the eyes of the public its potentially the federal administration in the USA. But what blame does WHO shoulder?

WHO appears to have been fairly well in front of this pandemic as soon as the evidence began to support it. The White House was in full denial/hoax mode until the end of February.

Re: CDC coronavirus testing decision likely to haunt nation for months to come

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Post by rabidrat »

ykevinator wrote: post #104

People are blaming trump and while I'm no fan, the cdc is an embarrassment. How many decades did they have to prepare for disease control?

Obama ramped up the CDC pandemic response team in 2014 after bird flu, and Trump let CDC leadership roles go unfilled in 2018 after they left. The Trump admin is directly responsible for the CDC becoming an 'embarrassment' as you say.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/feb/28/michael-bl...

Re: CDC coronavirus testing decision likely to haunt nation for months to come

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Post by ruytlm »

asquabventured wrote: post #126
aazaa wrote: post #121

The damage will be much longer lasting than this. The Chinese bought the US precious weeks to prepare while it locked down vast numbers of its own population. The disaster could have been prevented through a vigorous testing/quarrantine program in Washington and California. At every step of the way the US either bungled testing, or actively discouraged testing. It's been nothing but lies and mistakes from the start.…

I don't understand this mentality when other Western Nations are going through the exact same thing. Did the administration cause every other countries problems with containing the virus too?

In some regards, I'd argue yes; from my perspective, many western democracies have been following the US down its path to post-truth politics for years, as other countries' politicians have seen how effective the strategy of simply denying or ignoring anything you don't like is, and sought to replicate the success that (particularly) the Republican party has had in driving voters deeper into their partisan blocs.
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