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Re: God Helmet

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Post by dmix »

macrolime wrote: post #15
ahelwer wrote: post #3

This made me recall some wild online catalog website from the early 2000s that was primarily known (and advertised) for hoverboard sales, where the hoverboard was basically a small noisy gas-powered rectangular hovercraft you could stand on. I think I first saw their ad in Wired, or maybe a gaming magazine. Anyway if you dug into their catalog there was all sorts of wild stuff, from sleep masks that used LEDs to indu…

This site maybe? It's from that time and still exists https://www.amazing1.com

A video of the “anti-gravity” hover board, using pulsed DC, similar to what’s used in spacecraft: https://youtu.be/006d36WWyaQ

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Post by rozab »

>Jack Hitt, a journalist from Wired magazine, visited Persinger's lab in 1999 and expressed confusion over Persinger's post-stimulation debriefing ("One question: Did the red bulb on the wall grow larger or smaller? There was a red bulb on the wall? I hadn't noticed.") and reported: "Many other questions suggest that there were other experiences I should have had, but to be honest, I didn't. "

What a joke. Why is this in HN? There are better examples of suggestibility out there.

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Post by andai »

dr_dshiv wrote: post #13
ahelwer wrote: post #3

This made me recall some wild online catalog website from the early 2000s that was primarily known (and advertised) for hoverboard sales, where the hoverboard was basically a small noisy gas-powered rectangular hovercraft you could stand on. I think I first saw their ad in Wired, or maybe a gaming magazine. Anyway if you dug into their catalog there was all sorts of wild stuff, from sleep masks that used LEDs to indu…

I don't know the website and I can't speak to lucid dreaming, but the most incredible "sacred geometry" effects can come from "brain machine" or "audio visual entrainment" devices. Mitch Altman had a classic Make Magazine build -- the things are essentially LEDs flickering around 10hz alpha. We built one recently with Arduino to support open eye meditation -- and you see some pretty crazy things generated by your vis…

I can't find anything for Purkinje at the beach, do you know where you heard it?

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Post by EamonnMR »

philwelch wrote: post #11
ahelwer wrote: post #3

This made me recall some wild online catalog website from the early 2000s that was primarily known (and advertised) for hoverboard sales, where the hoverboard was basically a small noisy gas-powered rectangular hovercraft you could stand on. I think I first saw their ad in Wired, or maybe a gaming magazine. Anyway if you dug into their catalog there was all sorts of wild stuff, from sleep masks that used LEDs to indu…

Do the LEDs “induce” lucid dreaming or are they just a cue for you to look for? Because the cue thing might be slightly less absurd. If you get in the habit of performing “reality checks” (is checking for things that would be present in reality but not in a dream or vice versa), you would notice when you were dreaming and would hence have lucid dreams. Of course, it’s still a dumb product since you can just check whe…

Clocks are a good one, except if you're office happens to have a broken clock hanging up in a meeting room.

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Post by ada1981 »

I’ve had good results with a DIY version of a hypnogogic light.

I used one of these at a psychedelic science conference in SF but they wanted $25k to buy it. So I set out to build an open-source version for under $100.

The LSD (Light Stimulation Device) can be built for under $50 and is being used for therapy, relaxation and inducing psychedelic like experiences.

Current version is made with ski googles, lith ion USB rechargable battery, Arduino with Bluetooth and can pair with a terminal program on IPhone.

The whole project is on GitHub and can be found here:

Http://AnthonyDavidAdams.com/lsd

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Post by monkeynotes »

As a semi-related aside, I have epilepsy and one of the signs I am about to have a seizure is a sense of presence. It's really hard to describe but I get an intense feeling like someone is watching me close by. It's a very familiar feeling, last time I had a seizure, just before I fell to the floor I began to run away from what I perceived as a presence. Not fun.

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Post by knolax »

pavel_lishin wrote: post #20
jmiskovic wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Atheism is not the topic here, it is not even mentioned in article. Although it is not a scientific fact, I wouldn't call it a faith because there is nothing really to be gained by wishing it was true. Most faiths promise a decent return of interest for true believers. If a human-made device could produce sensation of God presence, it would diminish all the holy visions reported by saints. Dawkins denied feeling any…

> Dawkins denied feeling any such sensation, so it doesn't seem like he is lying to defend his beliefs? Maybe cleanroom believes that the helmet induces accurate visions of religious phenomena, so they think Dawkins did see something, but denied seeing it to support his worldview?

Wouldn't it beneficial for a prominent atheist like Dawkins to believe that feelings of divinity are merely side effects from some electric fields near the head? If he were to lie wouldn't he do so in favor of the God Helmet having an effect?

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Post by MivLives »

ada1981 wrote: post #25

I’ve had good results with a DIY version of a hypnogogic light. I used one of these at a psychedelic science conference in SF but they wanted $25k to buy it. So I set out to build an open-source version for under $100. The LSD (Light Stimulation Device) can be built for under $50 and is being used for therapy, relaxation and inducing psychedelic like experiences. Current version is made with ski googles, lith ion USB…

Thanks for the link. Always been curious to try one of these devices, I can actually afford to now.

Re: God Helmet

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Post by MivLives »

This is one of the things I've always wanted to try. Even if it is hockey pseudoscience as long as it's not actively dangerous it could be interesting.

Alas this and the overview effect are two things I'll probably never experience.

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