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Bailout money should be used to help people during unemployment.
The cruise industry is one of the most polluting and damaging industries in the world. It ruins cities worldwide. Their ships are petri-dishes for disease, spreading it directly into our vital cities. They are blocking perfect vistas of the sea. They are ruining local sea life and are spreading non-native species. Their exhaust fumes are extremely detrimental to local air quality in cities. The swarms of tourists are…
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Bailing them out is OK, but it should be through the government buying equity in those companies (essentially partial or complete nationalization).
> Bailing them out is OK, but it should be through the government buying equity in those companies (essentially partial or complete nationalization). Additionally, I think the government should be buying equity at a steep discount - something reasonable but not disastrous like 67%.
Tourists from cruise ships destroy nice vacactions. Many hundreds of people come on the streets in groups, go throught the streets loudly and fast to take photos, than go back to the ship. People who really go to these places and spend money for staying and try to blend in to have a peaceful vacation can't.
Your comment seems like the statement of someone with an axe to grind rather and lacks factual evidence.
It is a popular port for cruise ships doing the Norwegian coast. I assure you, during summer season one could have 2-4 vessels in port - effectively a DoS attack on town.
Getting from A to B on foot was nearly impossible, forget any shopping or café visits - a town built for 10,000 suddenly had twice as many people in the streets. Go figure.
While the cruise tourists leave a little cash behind, it is much less per head than, say, camper van tourists do.
I didn't mind all that much - but I can see valid reasons for not wishing to have a cruise entourage come crashing down on your hometown on a regular basis.
Fuck em, they flag in other countries so they don't pay taxes, but also because they can treat employees like slaves, pollute using bunker fuel, and generally fuck over the world. Fuck em.
Airlines also pollute and dodge taxes. But love them or hate them, it's hard to argue that airlines don't play a critical role. The broader economy would suffer badly if they were to fail. Cruise ships, however, do not. They are purely recreational and the economy would not fall apart if they were to go. They also share some of the blame for spreading Covid-19 in the first place!
Tourists from cruise ships destroy nice vacactions. Many hundreds of people come on the streets in groups, go throught the streets loudly and fast to take photos, than go back to the ship. People who really go to these places and spend money for staying and try to blend in to have a peaceful vacation can't.
Your comment seems like the statement of someone with an axe to grind rather and lacks factual evidence.
I love to travel, but I try to stay at least 10 days on any place I go to and learn a bit of the local language and customs.
For that I really need the airlines to work, but if they get more expensive, I understand, and will just make longer vacations at less places.
The cruise industry is one of the most polluting and damaging industries in the world. It ruins cities worldwide. Their ships are petri-dishes for disease, spreading it directly into our vital cities. They are blocking perfect vistas of the sea. They are ruining local sea life and are spreading non-native species. Their exhaust fumes are extremely detrimental to local air quality in cities. The swarms of tourists are…
I’ve always been curious about that, why do cruise ships always get hit with gastro? I rarely hear about it but when I do it’s on a cruise ship.
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Airlines also pollute and dodge taxes. But love them or hate them, it's hard to argue that airlines don't play a critical role. The broader economy would suffer badly if they were to fail. Cruise ships, however, do not. They are purely recreational and the economy would not fall apart if they were to go. They also share some of the blame for spreading Covid-19 in the first place!
> The broader economy would suffer badly if they were to fail Why? The planes are not going anywhere. If airlines fail, someone will be able to buy them at a discount. They will need to hire pilots and cabin crews. Shareholders in airlines will be hit - as it should be.
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Of all the really bad things that can be said about cruise ships you have chosen one that is 100% identical with airlines. Moreover, it has a certain air of "gatekeeping" that is fairly ridiculous. It is impossible to "blend" somewhere in vacation. You have to live many years somewhere to blend. You are exactly like the cruise ship tourists if you stay for a few weeks.
That's a bit unfair, when you fly somehwere you sleep there, you eat there, you spend there. Whereas on a cruise ship the tourist is spending 99% of their money on the ship, and 1% in the city that they're flooding