It’s not Waffle House, so it’s not time to panic yet. https://www.google.com/amp/s/fivethirtyeight.com/features/if...
Here is the link that the amp link points to: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/if-waffle-house-is-clos...
McDonald's to close all UK restaurants
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Re: McDonald's to close all UK restaurants
#52Earlier quoted context omitted.
You can store months of dry rice and canned food under your bed alone. You're talking about survival planning, not glamping. Most adult humans can survive upwards of 2 months without any food whatsoever if you've got adequate access to water.
Eating rice and beans is absolutely no way to live, that's for the zombie apocalypse, not a pandemic lockdown.
Parent post said: "Everyone should have at least one large sack of rice and beans in dry storage."
Re: McDonald's to close all UK restaurants
#53Earlier quoted context omitted.
The US is currently passing its own stimulus plan that will ship at least $500B to the bottom half of earners. It seems like the ETA for passing the bill is mid-week.
> to the bottom half of earners. Last I heard it was really for middle-income earners, as there was a phase-in income floor at around $50k/yr and a phase-out at around $75k/yr. Has this changed?
Latest details: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-AOqaYSBRA
$3000 for family of 4; no mention of income brackets restricting payments.
Re: McDonald's to close all UK restaurants
#54This is good, right?
Not for shift workers in healthcare / transport / retail who were using fast-food outlets when normal shops were closed.
Re: McDonald's to close all UK restaurants
#55Earlier quoted context omitted.
And Europe as a whole tends to buy groceries every other day, so I'd suspect stores aren't prepared to provide for any degree of bulk buying. Maybe it'll catch on more after this debacle - grocery stores are generally running fine in the US besides toilet paper and the odd other thing being sold out sometimes.
It’s not the stores, imho. From my experience of UK supermarkets in the last week, they’ve basically caught up with most stuff they are directly responsible for or that is produced very close to their needs. Bread is now there, vegetables are there, milk is there. What is dramatically lacking is processed food. I expect that’s because those items have much lower elasticity in their production: if you know you’ll sell…
Presumably cows are already being grown at reasonable rates though, they are just redirected to the restaurants. How does that work at the moment in the food industry when the wholesalers can't sell to their customers but still have the products manufactured?
Re: McDonald's to close all UK restaurants
#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
It’s not the stores, imho. From my experience of UK supermarkets in the last week, they’ve basically caught up with most stuff they are directly responsible for or that is produced very close to their needs. Bread is now there, vegetables are there, milk is there. What is dramatically lacking is processed food. I expect that’s because those items have much lower elasticity in their production: if you know you’ll sell…
Presumably cows are already being grown at reasonable rates though, they are just redirected to the restaurants. How does that work at the moment in the food industry when the wholesalers can't sell to their customers but still have the products manufactured?
If they have problems placing existing product, they typically ask for public intervention. It’s Europe, the whole agri business is regulated pretty tightly and subsidized to avoid overcapacity issues. Which is just fine, in most years, as it prevents a bunch of unsavory debates between close countries with a history of armed conflict spurred by industrial tensions. It’s the sort of thing that the Brexit saga brought to the surface.
The fact that the sector has not complained in the last month or so, to me says that they are unlikely to have overcapacity issues. This said, most UK restaurants and cafes have shut down only just today, so things might be different in a week.
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#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
> to the bottom half of earners. Last I heard it was really for middle-income earners, as there was a phase-in income floor at around $50k/yr and a phase-out at around $75k/yr. Has this changed?
The last article I read was this FT article published two days ago: https://www.ft.com/content/1f8e5a3a-6a58-11ea-800d-da70cff6e... The article says the Republicans are proposing $1,200 per individual who earns below a certain income and $500 per child, while the Democrats are proposing $2000 per month to all individuals and $1000 per month to all children. They're apparently stuck on how the corporate bailouts will…
Seems like scope creep. Just do the corporate bailouts in a different bill. Ship that $$$ for the working class immediately.
And seriously fuck Boeing. They did this to themselves. No bailouts, only loans. $50 billion bailout when they spent billions buying back stocks to enrich their top investors and execs. Should have saved for a rainy month. I’m sure without a bailout they’ll learn a lesson and figure shit out. It’s not the first time. AirBus is hit just as hard.
Basically we should ensure people have enough to live by and get through this period. Everything else will take care of itself.
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#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
>Sure as hell beats a bunch of people in the same supermarket breathing all over the produce and right on the cashier. going to macdonalds twice a day is definitely riskier than getting groceries at the supermarket once a week. most of the food is packaged, and the stuff that isn't can be thoroughly washed before eating it. even for the stuff that isn't packaged and can't be washed, coronavirus isn't known to last lo…
"which you then immediately stick in your mouth." Sticking the food into your mouth isn't much of a concern, there's no evidence that covid-19 can transmit "foodborne". The actual issue is an infected food prep worker contaminating the wrapper or the food itself, you touching the wrapper or the food, then touching your eyes or nose prior to washing your hands.
If covid isnt foodborne, then the produce sitting out at the grocery store is also safe.
But it seems really unlikely that it immediately disappears when it comes in contact with food. "Not food borne" usually just means that food isn't a better conductor of the virus that the average surface is.
Re: McDonald's to close all UK restaurants
#59It’s not Waffle House, so it’s not time to panic yet. https://www.google.com/amp/s/fivethirtyeight.com/features/if...
Please don't perpetuate the web cancer which is AMP.
Re: McDonald's to close all UK restaurants
#60It’s not Waffle House, so it’s not time to panic yet. https://www.google.com/amp/s/fivethirtyeight.com/features/if...
Please don't perpetuate the web cancer which is AMP.
I’m not editing the URL with my thumbs. Is there a convenient way to avoid it on mobile?
Maybe HN should just automatically rewrite AMP links to avoid these inevitable comments.