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Breathing and Exercise: Strength Training for Your Diaphragm (2018)

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Re: Breathing and Exercise: Strength Training for Your Diaphragm (2018)

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Post by DrAwdeOccarim »

amitdeshwar wrote: post #106
DrAwdeOccarim wrote: post #84

I was intrigued by this report last year ( http://www.sci-news.com/medicine/inspiratory-muscle-strength... ) and did some research around the idea of Inspiratory Muscle Strength Training (IMST). Turns out there has been a bit of peer-reviewed work done recently around IMST and statistically significant reductions in blood pressure, especially in regard to obstructive sleep apnea treated with CPAP ( https://www.ncbi.n…

Is it worth getting the electronic versions vs. the manual ones?

I prefer the K3 (electronic version) because it automatically adjusts, even mid-training, to keep the max effort around 75-80%. Your diaphragm gets strong, fast so if you don't adjust continuously soon there is not enough resistance. It's like lifting weights where a machine constantly increases the weight and manages it so you're always pushing yourself. You can do this with the manual ones, but I'm lazy and would rather pick up the device in the AM and PM, do it for 5-10 min, and be done not having to think about it. Keep in mind, though, the K3 is like $400...

Re: Breathing and Exercise: Strength Training for Your Diaphragm (2018)

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Post by Benenati2323 »

BreathHiker wrote: post #108
DrAwdeOccarim wrote: post #84

I was intrigued by this report last year ( http://www.sci-news.com/medicine/inspiratory-muscle-strength... ) and did some research around the idea of Inspiratory Muscle Strength Training (IMST). Turns out there has been a bit of peer-reviewed work done recently around IMST and statistically significant reductions in blood pressure, especially in regard to obstructive sleep apnea treated with CPAP ( https://www.ncbi.n…

I don't have a high blood pressure but I do use a CPAP device for handling my spnea. Currently using a Philips Dreamstation. After it was diagnosed I immediately got the device and ever since my AHI dropped from about 50 to 2 or 3 an. I wonder if it is possible to ever get off this device. Would this breath exercises help in reducing the AHI? Some actions which I have experienced in a positive way of reducing AHI: -…

Hello there I actually have a Phillips DreamStation Auto BiPAP Hum Dom (DSX700H11), thats connected to the DreamStation Hum Core Pack DOM (DSXHCP), that I’m currently trying to find a new home for. It was my fathers, he recently past an the machine cost us a small fortune because at the time he had no INS. Anyways if anyone is interested please contact my via Email. My Gmail is the exact same as my user name on this site. I appreciate any feedback as far as where else I might been able to recoup some of my money spent as well as help someone that may not have the right resources to set one through there INS or what not. Again that’s, and sorry to interrupt your conversation! Benenati2323

Re: Breathing and Exercise: Strength Training for Your Diaphragm (2018)

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Post by WalterBright »

WalterBright wrote: post #45
sriram_malhar wrote: post #43

I wanted to improve my presentation skills. I felt my voice was too nasal and thin, I spoke too fast, and emphasised too many words. So I approached a voice training coach. It seems everything -- from delivery, pauses, speed of delivery to sore throats -- could be improved if one could pay attention to proper breath control, and diaphragmatic breathing. I can certainly attest to that.

I went looking for a voice coach. All I could find were singing coaches and autistic speech therapy ones. Nobody who could coach me at giving presentations. How did you find yours?

Here's the thing. I often listen to recorded voices at 1.25x or 1.50x speedup. Some people can be easily understood faster, others not. A commonality in those that can be understood are they are professionals, and ones that can't are lay people. Clearly (!), the professionals enunciate in a way that's much more understandable.

I've also noticed when listening to a presentation that some presenters are a lot easier to listen to. I'd like to improve my presentations in that way - that means tone, pacing, enunciation, etc.

Re: Breathing and Exercise: Strength Training for Your Diaphragm (2018)

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Post by mr_overalls »

stevage wrote: post #7

>From an early age, you were likely taught to breathe with your upper chest. Wait, what? People are taught how to breathe? Is this really a thing?

I've heard this in a variety of meditation & martial arts communities. I think it's is more of a straw man that various groups use to build up the importance of their own methods.

Re: Breathing and Exercise: Strength Training for Your Diaphragm (2018)

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Post by DrAwdeOccarim »

BreathHiker wrote: post #108
DrAwdeOccarim wrote: post #84

I was intrigued by this report last year ( http://www.sci-news.com/medicine/inspiratory-muscle-strength... ) and did some research around the idea of Inspiratory Muscle Strength Training (IMST). Turns out there has been a bit of peer-reviewed work done recently around IMST and statistically significant reductions in blood pressure, especially in regard to obstructive sleep apnea treated with CPAP ( https://www.ncbi.n…

I don't have a high blood pressure but I do use a CPAP device for handling my spnea. Currently using a Philips Dreamstation. After it was diagnosed I immediately got the device and ever since my AHI dropped from about 50 to 2 or 3 an. I wonder if it is possible to ever get off this device. Would this breath exercises help in reducing the AHI? Some actions which I have experienced in a positive way of reducing AHI: -…

Obstructive sleep apnea is terrible. I am thin but have a malformed throat/jaw so I have OSA. Fortunately, mandibular advancement devices worked well for me but you can only use them for 8-10 years before they permanently adjust your bite. I used one religiously in my late 20's early 30's and it was great, but I have since moved to CPAP full time using nasal pillows and a chin strap off Amazon to keep my mouth closed. I also sleep on a 7deg straight incline (whole bed, not wedge). Putting all these things together works wonders for me. I am also APOE3 heterozygote so I am super fastidious about proper sleep hygiene to ensure lymphatic clearance of beta-amyloid plaque. The no alcohol before bed is super important, but I have a hard time holding to it--I'll get there eventually. Overall, there is nothing to do about it. The only surgical options are terrible and the new electrostimulatory devices are promising but new and therefore long-term effects are unknown. I hope we reach a point where there is a "cure", but for me it's doubtful.

Re: Breathing and Exercise: Strength Training for Your Diaphragm (2018)

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Post by delackner »

brodouevencode wrote: post #94
blurbleblurble wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes! Breathing like that will purge carbon dioxide from your blood more quickly and result in higher oxygen levels. There are some really powerful exercises based on oxygen breathing in quite a few different traditions. Some names I've heard of are "holotropic breathing", "circular breathing", "breath of fire", "round breathing", "bioenergetics breathing", and "Wim Hoff method". Wilhelm Reich made use of oxygen incre…

I highly recommend everyone look into Wim Hoff's work. It's not only helpful but he's also a super interesting guy.

This interview shows Wim Hof Guiding someone through a full single round:

https://youtu.be/JPPlicAEFec?t=3058

Four rounds in a row first thing in the morning blows coffee away by a long shot.

And the free app to make it easy to track progress: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/wim-hof-method/id890471578?m...

Re: Breathing and Exercise: Strength Training for Your Diaphragm (2018)

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Post by kingdomcome50 »

delackner wrote: post #116
brodouevencode wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I highly recommend everyone look into Wim Hoff's work. It's not only helpful but he's also a super interesting guy.

This interview shows Wim Hof Guiding someone through a full single round: https://youtu.be/JPPlicAEFec?t=3058 Four rounds in a row first thing in the morning blows coffee away by a long shot. And the free app to make it easy to track progress: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/wim-hof-method/id890471578?m...

I tried it with them, and you know what? It felt good. That said, there was no shortage of red flags coming from Hof. Expelling the cancer? The bacteria? Hm...

I had to stop when the Russel Brand was trying to explain that the mediation quieted the narrative in his head. Hof attempted to finish his thought in exactly the wrong way, then pulled a 180 upon being corrected. Really had the feel of that guy in the mall trying to sell you hand cream...

Re: Breathing and Exercise: Strength Training for Your Diaphragm (2018)

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Post by delackner »

kingdomcome50 wrote: post #117
delackner wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This interview shows Wim Hof Guiding someone through a full single round: https://youtu.be/JPPlicAEFec?t=3058 Four rounds in a row first thing in the morning blows coffee away by a long shot. And the free app to make it easy to track progress: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/wim-hof-method/id890471578?m...

I tried it with them, and you know what? It felt good. That said, there was no shortage of red flags coming from Hof. Expelling the cancer? The bacteria? Hm... I had to stop when the Russel Brand was trying to explain that the mediation quieted the narrative in his head. Hof attempted to finish his thought in exactly the wrong way, then pulled a 180 upon being corrected. Really had the feel of that guy in the mall tr…

The messenger's clothes don't matter if the message is verifiable.

Go read the clinical study. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4034215/

Look up his list of Guinness records. Marathon in the desert. Climbed nearly to the top of Everest in shorts and no shirt. World record for longest breath hold underwater. etc.

Only someone who feels strange would even think to try these things.

Re: Breathing and Exercise: Strength Training for Your Diaphragm (2018)

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Post by bichiliad »

rand_r wrote: post #39
blurbleblurble wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes! Breathing like that will purge carbon dioxide from your blood more quickly and result in higher oxygen levels. There are some really powerful exercises based on oxygen breathing in quite a few different traditions. Some names I've heard of are "holotropic breathing", "circular breathing", "breath of fire", "round breathing", "bioenergetics breathing", and "Wim Hoff method". Wilhelm Reich made use of oxygen incre…

The evolutionary history of how we developed an instinct to hyperventilate is an interesting question. However, I have to put up a warning that hyperventilating doesn't actually increase oxygen levels. It's a dangerous practice because it surpasses the natural drive to breath by depleting CO2 in the blood to abnormally low levels. Our breath drive depends on CO2 levels and can get fooled by hyperventilation into lett…

That was a really interesting link. It sounds here like hyperventilation, in practice, is dangerous only if you might become oxygen-starved right after (like in diving). A lot of these breathing exercises, like the one in the video above, aren't necessarily dangerous for that reason.

Re: Breathing and Exercise: Strength Training for Your Diaphragm (2018)

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Post by thomk »

Benenati2323 wrote: post #112
BreathHiker wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't have a high blood pressure but I do use a CPAP device for handling my spnea. Currently using a Philips Dreamstation. After it was diagnosed I immediately got the device and ever since my AHI dropped from about 50 to 2 or 3 an. I wonder if it is possible to ever get off this device. Would this breath exercises help in reducing the AHI? Some actions which I have experienced in a positive way of reducing AHI: -…

Hello there I actually have a Phillips DreamStation Auto BiPAP Hum Dom (DSX700H11), thats connected to the DreamStation Hum Core Pack DOM (DSXHCP), that I’m currently trying to find a new home for. It was my fathers, he recently past an the machine cost us a small fortune because at the time he had no INS. Anyways if anyone is interested please contact my via Email. My Gmail is the exact same as my user name on this…

This is a VERY active community around sleep apnea. Someone there could certainly help you: http://apneaboard.com/
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