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Re: Ask HN: What skills will be useful during an upcoming recession/depression?

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I hope this is sarcasm, I hope people aren't actually as cynical as this.

I hope you’re not as optimistic as that. GM lost the American taxpayers north of $10MMM. That was enough to purchase over 500,000 vehicles at the time. 500 fucking thousand vehicles. That’s just the amount of money that they lost us with their “good Bank bad Bank” style IP-related scam. Do you think this is not reason enough to be cynical during financial crises?

I guess you are blind to how your comment comes across:

> which gives you and them the opportunity to make billions in profits while everybody else is suffering.

Strikes me as shitty attitude, "here's how you can profit from everyone's dire situation".

Re: Ask HN: What skills will be useful during an upcoming recession/depression?

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Learn to learn. And then practice learning. Our brains have very high capacity to learn, adapt and forget quite a lot - just believe that you can, and you will. All you need is focused effort. You only need to prove that belief once to yourself. I know this sounds philosophical, but it works. Becoming an expert in an area is quite another thing. For that you need to evaluate the benefits. > new state of things Nobody…

Like this a lot. Anything that has helped you learn how to learn?

I heard that from one of the senior professors 18 years back, and that stuck in my mind. I was doing that even before that but then had the formal phrase "Learn to learn".

What has helped? - It was definitely not books about the topic and I had very limited access to internet or videos.

I do not know the answer, but I will try to explain my scenario. There are some things you can replicate and some you cannot.

Something changed in me when I was 17 years old and that motivated me to learn a lot. Before that I was an average kid who thought studies are pointless burden. In a way, I was right because it was directionless but wrong because I was not getting educated in any other way either.

Unfortunately, I was a college freshman by then and with worst grades of my life prior to that. Parents and relatives looked down on me as a failure and my parents gave up on me. So here I was a new person, highly motivated to learn and catch up learning from the lost years and also had a high degree of freedom to think and learn whatever I wanted to. So few things - I had freedom, no pressures, I knew that I didn't know, self-motivated, no fear of failure, open-mindedness but still questioning everything, and no-ego.

Few beliefs set in quickly:

1. Human brain can learn anything. And I meant learning, not memorization - I hated memorizing. I also believed that if I can do it, anybody can.

2. Knowledge is universally accessible (as if it is in a higher dimension on a shared hard-drive) and if we focus just enough on what we want to achieve, our brains will tune to it. I know how crazy the second one sounds. I may have a wrong perception but it was my own (not induced by someone or a book or some movie). It works for me whatever the underlying neurological reason might be. Today, internet does the same thing - making knowledge universally accessible

Then, it was a top down approach starting with what I want to do or what problem I want to solve.

Did not matter whether the effort would pay back or whether it was any useful to me. I just needed to have some interest in that subject.

For one instance, it was music, I impulsively bought a musical keyboard. I was foolish to think that because I was good at a computer keyboard, I will be naturally good at the musical one too. I had lot of time after work and I wanted to stay away from programming all day (because programming is my hobby too). Then I selected one of the keyboard's built-in composition, Beethoven's Fur Elise in tutorial mode. The keyboard would tell me which keys to play. I hate memorization, so the first thing I did was to listen and hit the right key. I was basically exploring and feeling the keyboard like a toddler does with things. And then I would practice the song again and again and again for many hours a day (at least 3-4 hours). I would end up optimizing my finger movements when I used to get stuck. Then sometimes I would try to fit the tunes of some songs on the keyboard. Few months later a musician friend of a friend came in my room to see the keyboard. When I played Beethoven's Fur Elise, he was amazed at how well I moved the hand and the fingers. He was astonished to know that I had zero formal training. How did I learn that? Trial and error and focused effort. I came to know then that what I was doing is called "ear training". He shared more information about books, videos and musical languages. I gathered more resources to learn about those things, got good at playing complex musicals. But then gradually I stopped playing the keyboard - may be because it started to feel like work or may be because something else interested me more.

I'm not discounting the value of formal education. It saves you lots of time and prevents lots of mistakes.

I also dig deeper into the history of concepts, because it makes me understand and remember it. A college friend accidentally taught me that. For example when I was reading about pharmacology and drugs - I wondered why they name the drugs like they do. Exploring deeper is like falling down the seemingly infinite rabbit hole - but that is what keeps learning fun for me, even if I get off track for a while.

On the cons, every week I spend hours learning things that have no immediate benefit or use or any visible long term benefit. But most of the times, sometimes after many years, it turns out to be helpful in ways I could not have imagined.

Re: Ask HN: What skills will be useful during an upcoming recession/depression?

#173

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Sorry, I don't want to be too negative but I find your sentiment very naive and self-centred. If you're well off now you'll be fine. If you're decently off in a wealthy country you'll be fine too. If you're one of the precariously employed and healthcare-less workers in a country like the US you will suffer and might die. If you are a precariously employed person in a poor country you'll watch many friends and family…

This hitting Syria give me the chills.

It's come to Afghanistan via Iran.

That may be the least prepared country for it.

Re: Ask HN: What skills will be useful during an upcoming recession/depression?

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Skills are tactics. Dealing with a recession is about strategy. Most importantly: this is a time to focus on reducing risks, rather than maximizing profit. This is a crappy time to start a startup or being a freelancer. Keep your job, build your skills, save money, and start in a few years. Think about your job's security: Pay attention to your employers annual/quarterly reports. Which industries does your employer s…

I work for a university as a teacher. What do you think the economic implications might be for a university in the coming months? I can see less new people enrolling next semester, current students refusing to pay the same tuition if it's going to continue being all online etc.

Re: Ask HN: What skills will be useful during an upcoming recession/depression?

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Yes, but perhaps not in the way that you might think. There were a number of structural factors that led to the great depression: gold standard currency and restrictive monetary policy at the Fed, overly restrictive tariff laws, simultaneous drought that destroyed a lot of farmland, rampant financial fraud, lack of deposit insurance at banks causing numerous bank runs and failures. Basically all of the above is diffe…

This reads like someone unleashed GPT2 on a bunch of CNBC interviews with a bunch of hedge fund managers making the case for why their portfolio deserves a "fair share" of the bailout pie.

What part of it didn't you agree with and why?

Re: Ask HN: What skills will be useful during an upcoming recession/depression?

#176

Skills are tactics. Dealing with a recession is about strategy. Most importantly: this is a time to focus on reducing risks, rather than maximizing profit. This is a crappy time to start a startup or being a freelancer. Keep your job, build your skills, save money, and start in a few years. Think about your job's security: Pay attention to your employers annual/quarterly reports. Which industries does your employer s…

I work for a university as a teacher. What do you think the economic implications might be for a university in the coming months? I can see less new people enrolling next semester, current students refusing to pay the same tuition if it's going to continue being all online etc.

I work for a company where universities are pretty much 100% of our customers, so I'm curious about this also.

Re: Ask HN: What skills will be useful during an upcoming recession/depression?

#177

Skills are tactics. Dealing with a recession is about strategy. Most importantly: this is a time to focus on reducing risks, rather than maximizing profit. This is a crappy time to start a startup or being a freelancer. Keep your job, build your skills, save money, and start in a few years. Think about your job's security: Pay attention to your employers annual/quarterly reports. Which industries does your employer s…

I work for a university as a teacher. What do you think the economic implications might be for a university in the coming months? I can see less new people enrolling next semester, current students refusing to pay the same tuition if it's going to continue being all online etc.

i think as folks have less money and the good times of the last market boom are over, they will more deeply consider the value add that high priced universities may or may not actually add to their life over the long run. I think a correction in university pricing is long over due.

Re: Ask HN: What skills will be useful during an upcoming recession/depression?

#178

Skills are tactics. Dealing with a recession is about strategy. Most importantly: this is a time to focus on reducing risks, rather than maximizing profit. This is a crappy time to start a startup or being a freelancer. Keep your job, build your skills, save money, and start in a few years. Think about your job's security: Pay attention to your employers annual/quarterly reports. Which industries does your employer s…

>This is also a bad time to change jobs - depending on your local laws, it probably is much, much easier to lay off someone who just started.

Counterpoint: this is a great time to change jobs. There is much higher upside on equity packages.

Re: Ask HN: What skills will be useful during an upcoming recession/depression?

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post #130

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Sure. But if there was a need for the goods and services those companies provided before, then there will be a need for those goods and services again. I don't think enduring financial collapse logically follows from even an extended quarantine.

I don't think that is necessarily true. Something like gamestop won't come back, individuals who put everything into a small business might not recover and try again. A lot is happening at one time.

Something like Gamestop not coming back doesn't mean those dollars aren't still going to flow to gaming

Re: Ask HN: What skills will be useful during an upcoming recession/depression?

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post #130

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I don't think that is necessarily true. Something like gamestop won't come back, individuals who put everything into a small business might not recover and try again. A lot is happening at one time.

Something like Gamestop not coming back doesn't mean those dollars aren't still going to flow to gaming

It's not just gaming, there's employees, local taxes, rents, physical distribution.
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