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Breathing and Exercise: Strength Training for Your Diaphragm (2018)

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For some reason I find that my body doesn't seem to want to breathe in on its own. Like, I can't determine a comfortable point (and I've paid a lot of attention to this over my years in meditation) where my body seems to "take over" from my conscious control and decide to breathe in comfortably on its own. I've found that I hold my lungs empty for longer than is comfortable, to the point where breathing in causes a n…

The only way to hand off control of your breathing to your subconscious is to do something that distracts your conscious mind. You can't focus on breathing and then say, "here you go, brain, handle it."

I don't think that's true. When I started breathing meditation, it felt like that for me: whenever I was aware of my breathing, I automatically switched to directly controlling the breath. As a result, my rhythm was off and I often became lightheaded and stopped.

At some point you learn to separate action and observation: you can focus your attention on the breath, meaning the sensations associated with breathing (air flowing through your nostrils and over your upper lip, belly slowly moving), and still let your body control the breathing action automatically.

In The Mind Illuminated, there is a comparison of this to catching a ball: instead of seeing the ball and trying to directly control your arm to catch it, you focus on your intention ("Catch the ball") and let your body simply act on (implement) this intention.

The great thing is that while you practice this separation of action and observation using the breath, it will apply generally to your life. Very powerful for managing your emotions: instead of being your emotion when you become aware of it, and identifying with the urge to act on it, you learn to observe the emotion without that observation having direct effects on your actions. You can choose to act on it, or choose not to.

Re: Breathing and Exercise: Strength Training for Your Diaphragm (2018)

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I was intrigued by this report last year ( http://www.sci-news.com/medicine/inspiratory-muscle-strength... ) and did some research around the idea of Inspiratory Muscle Strength Training (IMST). Turns out there has been a bit of peer-reviewed work done recently around IMST and statistically significant reductions in blood pressure, especially in regard to obstructive sleep apnea treated with CPAP ( https://www.ncbi.n…

Very interesting. I was already practising similar kind of respiratory exercises: you inhale-exhale deeply 20 times, then you empty your lungs and hold this state as long as you can (depending on your health condition, can be 20s or 2mins). It helps against nasal congestion along with the rest of body stretching of course

I almost hyperventilated myself before I got to the "hold your lungs empty" part; I should have known better than just to try it on a whim.

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Lot of people tend to have respiratory failure before situation gets worrisome and breath exercises are a definite way to help your body do what a ventilator does In yoga asanas, there are few breathing exercises that existed in ancient India and I myself can attest to it that I was able to overcome lot of allergies practising it, Here is a resource to follow along. https://youtu.be/iUKjuni-6l8 starts at 9 mins and g…

I'd also suggest practicing nadi shodhana pranayama with breath retention. There is some evidence that holding your breath in a controlled way exercises your spleen, like endurance divers train for, which injects oxygenated red blood cells into circulation. [1][2] It obviously has an effect on respiratory capacity as well. [3]

There are plenty of resources on Nadi Shodhana -- I'd suggest Iyengar's "Light on Pranayama" -- but I'd recommend starting with a 1:1:1 ratio of inhale:hold:exhale counts through alternate nostrils, then moving on to 1:2:2 and then 1:4:2.

[1] https://vcresearch.berkeley.edu/news/enlarged-spleen-key-div...

[2] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3694106/

[3] PDF warning: https://physoc.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1113/EP086...

Re: Breathing and Exercise: Strength Training for Your Diaphragm (2018)

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I upvoted. HN hates comments like this but I've also had similar experiences. Asthmatic as a kid, high blood pressure in my 20s. All of that disappeared.

post hoc, ergo propter hoc.

yeah working out muscles makes them stronger. Must be a myth.

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I was intrigued by this report last year ( http://www.sci-news.com/medicine/inspiratory-muscle-strength... ) and did some research around the idea of Inspiratory Muscle Strength Training (IMST). Turns out there has been a bit of peer-reviewed work done recently around IMST and statistically significant reductions in blood pressure, especially in regard to obstructive sleep apnea treated with CPAP ( https://www.ncbi.n…

Is it worth getting the electronic versions vs. the manual ones?

Re: Breathing and Exercise: Strength Training for Your Diaphragm (2018)

#107

I was intrigued by this report last year ( http://www.sci-news.com/medicine/inspiratory-muscle-strength... ) and did some research around the idea of Inspiratory Muscle Strength Training (IMST). Turns out there has been a bit of peer-reviewed work done recently around IMST and statistically significant reductions in blood pressure, especially in regard to obstructive sleep apnea treated with CPAP ( https://www.ncbi.n…

Very interesting. I was already practising similar kind of respiratory exercises: you inhale-exhale deeply 20 times, then you empty your lungs and hold this state as long as you can (depending on your health condition, can be 20s or 2mins). It helps against nasal congestion along with the rest of body stretching of course

I have done this breathing exercise for a long time.... though addmitedly, much less recently. T.Hanx for the reminder...

I used to meditate an hour a day when I was in my 20s, and now, being in my 40s, I can measurably feel the difference of not meditating regularly. Its time to really get dedicated to it.

Re: Breathing and Exercise: Strength Training for Your Diaphragm (2018)

#108

I was intrigued by this report last year ( http://www.sci-news.com/medicine/inspiratory-muscle-strength... ) and did some research around the idea of Inspiratory Muscle Strength Training (IMST). Turns out there has been a bit of peer-reviewed work done recently around IMST and statistically significant reductions in blood pressure, especially in regard to obstructive sleep apnea treated with CPAP ( https://www.ncbi.n…

I don't have a high blood pressure but I do use a CPAP device for handling my spnea. Currently using a Philips Dreamstation. After it was diagnosed I immediately got the device and ever since my AHI dropped from about 50 to 2 or 3 an. I wonder if it is possible to ever get off this device. Would this breath exercises help in reducing the AHI?

Some actions which I have experienced in a positive way of reducing AHI: - Hiking / workout before going to bed - Quit consuming drinks containing alcohol.

Any other suggestions would be great and very welcome!

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Extracting from (with slight modification re retention) https://www.amazon.com/Wellness-Sense-practical-emotional-Ay... >>> Respiratory cleansing purifies your entire body. It pacifies the three doshas and strengthens the seven dhatus. It flushes your lungs and blood with fresh and excess oxygen that results in definitive strengthening of your immune system and your overall wellbeing. Respiratory cleansing has a calm…

Is it possible to separate the spiritualism and pseudo-science from the actual facts? Lines like saying belly breathing "pacifies the three doshas and strengthens the seven dhatus" serves to discredit any possible real benefits.

I think we always have the option to ignore what doesn't fit in our world-view. I mostly just copied text on breathing from the book on Ayurveda in which these things are fundamental building blocks of the human physiology.
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