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McDonald's to close all UK restaurants

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Re: McDonald's to close all UK restaurants

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Post by arcticbull »

makomk wrote: post #27
jakear wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was being a bit facetious. The fact of the matter is there exist people who have not prepped, and grocery stores are a complete mess. Drive through solves both these problems, as letting those that behaved “completely idiotically” either die or come join in the crowds at grocery stores isn’t a great option.

Also, there's a lot of people in London who don't really have the space to keep large stockpiles of food in, or necessarily much in the way of decent cooking facilities.

You can store months of dry rice and canned food under your bed alone. You're talking about survival planning, not glamping. Most adult humans can survive upwards of 2 months without any food whatsoever if you've got adequate access to water.

Re: McDonald's to close all UK restaurants

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Post by maxerickson »

davidwihl wrote: post #19
aazaa wrote: post #4

> McDonald's UK boss, Paul Pomroy, said: "Over the last 24 hours, it has become clear that maintaining safe social distancing whilst operating busy takeaway and Drive Thru restaurants is increasingly difficult and therefore we have taken the decision to close every restaurant in the UK and Ireland by 7pm on Monday 23 March. A lot of Americans are relying on this method of food distribution. It seems inevitable that c…

I’m deeply worried about the US food supply in 4-6 weeks time, not because of availability but because of a lack of healthy people to process, transport and distribute the food. Given the sorry state of migrant farm workers in the US [0], it won’t take much for infections to spread. [0] http://www.ncfh.org/uploads/3/8/6/8/38685499/fs-migrant_demo...

As ever, it's the vegetable supply that is in question. Calories come from grains and potatoes and such that are heavily mechanized.

Re: McDonald's to close all UK restaurants

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Post by tzs »

jakear wrote: post #2

If this comes to the US my disaster preparedness plans will be seriously compromised... In theory drive through should be the best possible food mechanism in terms of risk to the workers (and patrons). If they could arrange for contactless payment (already possible, just affix a tap reader to the side of the drive through window), and some way to serve the food while keeping the window closed (a shelf extending out f…

> In theory drive through should be the best possible food mechanism in terms of risk to the workers (and patrons). If they could arrange for contactless payment (already possible, just affix a tap reader to the side of the drive through window),

I don’t know if they support this in the UK, but for the US McDonald’s has an excellent mobile app. You can order and pay using the app. You can pick up by going through the drive through and giving the 4 character order code from the app, or by parking in a spot reserved for mobile order pickup and then entering the spot number in the app and they bring the food to your car.

If you do the latter, and roll down the backseat window while keeping the driver window closed, and ask the person to place the food on the backseat, that should be pretty safe as far as person to person transmission goes.

Re: McDonald's to close all UK restaurants

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Post by o-__-o »

finaliteration wrote: post #17
catalogia wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What about fresh produce sitting on store shelves, where people can touch and breath on it? (I say this while eating a hotdog I just got from 7-11)

We’re still buying fresh produce because there’s plenty of it and we don’t have a ton of space to store frozen/canned food. I’ve been washing produce with soap and water for 20 seconds and then rinsing it before eating it. We also roast most of our vegetables so the risk seems small, to me.

I am debating Ordering a pizza right now and I was thinking of putting it in the oven for 2-3minvwhen it got here then store it in a container I have at the house and discard the box as usual.

I see no flaws in this plan.

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Post by stri8ed »

georgemcbay wrote: post #25
notatoad wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Sure as hell beats a bunch of people in the same supermarket breathing all over the produce and right on the cashier. going to macdonalds twice a day is definitely riskier than getting groceries at the supermarket once a week. most of the food is packaged, and the stuff that isn't can be thoroughly washed before eating it. even for the stuff that isn't packaged and can't be washed, coronavirus isn't known to last lo…

"which you then immediately stick in your mouth." Sticking the food into your mouth isn't much of a concern, there's no evidence that covid-19 can transmit "foodborne". The actual issue is an infected food prep worker contaminating the wrapper or the food itself, you touching the wrapper or the food, then touching your eyes or nose prior to washing your hands.

In theory, so long as one does not make contact with their nose or eyes, except in a shower (after washing hands), all infections can be prevented, besides airborne-based intake? Has it been established that infection cannot be caught by consumption of contaminated food?

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Post by [deleted] »

stri8ed wrote: post #35
georgemcbay wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"which you then immediately stick in your mouth." Sticking the food into your mouth isn't much of a concern, there's no evidence that covid-19 can transmit "foodborne". The actual issue is an infected food prep worker contaminating the wrapper or the food itself, you touching the wrapper or the food, then touching your eyes or nose prior to washing your hands.

In theory, so long as one does not make contact with their nose or eyes, except in a shower (after washing hands), all infections can be prevented, besides airborne-based intake? Has it been established that infection cannot be caught by consumption of contaminated food?

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Re: McDonald's to close all UK restaurants

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Post by mywittyname »

smallgovt wrote: post #30
Jedd wrote: post #24

Arguably this could improve people's health prospects on two fronts simultaneously. I note that the CEO here basically stepped up because the UK government hadn't -- it's doubtless not easy, but the best thing about this story is that he's said 'we'll match our casual worker's shift pay up until early April' (when the UK relief package for casual workers is meant to be implemented). I fear a lot of my risk has, and w…

The US is currently passing its own stimulus plan that will ship at least $500B to the bottom half of earners. It seems like the ETA for passing the bill is mid-week.

> to the bottom half of earners.

Last I heard it was really for middle-income earners, as there was a phase-in income floor at around $50k/yr and a phase-out at around $75k/yr.

Has this changed?

Re: McDonald's to close all UK restaurants

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Post by maxerickson »

stri8ed wrote: post #35
georgemcbay wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"which you then immediately stick in your mouth." Sticking the food into your mouth isn't much of a concern, there's no evidence that covid-19 can transmit "foodborne". The actual issue is an infected food prep worker contaminating the wrapper or the food itself, you touching the wrapper or the food, then touching your eyes or nose prior to washing your hands.

In theory, so long as one does not make contact with their nose or eyes, except in a shower (after washing hands), all infections can be prevented, besides airborne-based intake? Has it been established that infection cannot be caught by consumption of contaminated food?

You can't prove a negative.

There's not been any documented occurrences of it. But most people probably don't know how they got infected either.

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