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Post by yellow_lead »

fma wrote: post #177
tcbawo wrote: post #10

If Amazon wanted to win immediate trust and lasting goodwill, they should secure suppliers for "Amazon's choice" cotton surgical masks, providing priority service to hospital systems in regions of need, but also (publicly), their own warehouse and delivery workforce. They have the leverage, analytics, and supply chain to make it happen. Edit: We need to provide enough masks so that people don't feel like they are dep…

This is what government is for... WTF are we spending all this money for military, which has their own suppliers, logistics etc if they can't help us. Additionally our intelligence agencies should have been "blowing the whistle" when Trump downplayed the issue for 2 months.

It's all conjecture for now, but I consider this a huge failing of the IC. Makes you wonder what they're actually focused on if it isn't protecting the American public.

EDIT: Maybe the more likely answer is politician(s) didn't listen.

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Post by nojvek »

tcbawo wrote: post #10

If Amazon wanted to win immediate trust and lasting goodwill, they should secure suppliers for "Amazon's choice" cotton surgical masks, providing priority service to hospital systems in regions of need, but also (publicly), their own warehouse and delivery workforce. They have the leverage, analytics, and supply chain to make it happen. Edit: We need to provide enough masks so that people don't feel like they are dep…

Why are we paying almost a trillion dollar in taxes if the government can’t get its shit together and we have to rely on mega corporations.

When looking at Wuhan news, everyone is wearing a mask. How did they make that happen for millions of people. Singapore mailed 4 masks per household. South Korea nearly tested every citizen.

Sure China is an authoritarian government but we can’t deny it can do manufacturing and logistical wonders.

The corporate greed and govt incompetence clearly shows when COVID-19 hit us (usa). It will dip our economy way harder than it will hit China.

Could someone share if China is also doing massive stimulus and billions of dollar bailouts?

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Post by sneak »

yellow_lead wrote: post #211
fma wrote: post #177

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is what government is for... WTF are we spending all this money for military, which has their own suppliers, logistics etc if they can't help us. Additionally our intelligence agencies should have been "blowing the whistle" when Trump downplayed the issue for 2 months.

It's all conjecture for now, but I consider this a huge failing of the IC. Makes you wonder what they're actually focused on if it isn't protecting the American public. EDIT: Maybe the more likely answer is politician(s) didn't listen.

I don’t wonder, because their actions have been making “the American public” less safe and more surveilled for decades. They are after the same thing all military intelligence services are after: power and control.

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Post by jacobwilliamroy »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #126
jacobwilliamroy wrote: post #49

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Based on downvotes I'm gonna go ahead and guess that there is no war (aside from the wars that are already going) and this use of the word "war" was referring to something else. Still I would like someone to please confirm that there is not a real war coming.

> I'm gonna go ahead and guess that there is no war That's not really right, because that implies that other people are using the word wrong. It's more that it's a word with a lot of uses, and you got stuck on one of them.

They are using it wrong. I think when op said "war" op meant "public health policy" which is really far away from war. It's actually the complete opposite thing.

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Post by mitchty »

all_blue_chucks wrote: post #208
mitchty wrote: post #207

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> I believe this 100% to be true. Based on what evidence exactly? > Considering that under certain conditions the virus can stay in the air for up to 3 hours, masks definitely are helpful. Those conditions being using a Goldberg Drum designed to keep aerosols that can't stay airborne for as long as possible? If yes then yeah sure this virus can survive in the air for 3 hours, but that isn't normal reality. It can't s…

Your position is just another that has yet to catch on to the fact of asymptomatic transmission. There are countless sources indicating this is happening. Just take the time to read one.

> Your position is just another that has yet to catch on to the fact of asymptomatic transmission. > Just take the time to read one.

This isn't my position, its from virologists. And I'll thank you to not presume I don't already know of those sources. Those aren't relating to aerosols in the air for 3 hours.

Listen to practicing virologists on the matter not me: http://www.microbe.tv/twiv/twiv-592/

And as a note, I'm really resisting not getting pissed off at your comment which seems to presume I'm too dumb to know about asymptomatic transmission.

Perhaps you could, I don't know link to some bioarxiv sources or actual information rather than alluding to things. My comment was exclusively in regards to the virus surviving in aerosol form for 3 hours. Its a contrived environment where that can happen. Transmission in the air isn't what I am discounting. Capiche?

Actually forget about it. I'm just going to stop commenting entirely on this matter.

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Post by wilma5 »

decebalus1 wrote: post #210
wilma5 wrote: post #179

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All the paycheck to paycheck people I know are literally taking out loans to buy $2.5k MacBooks which they mistreat and break within a year only to buy another one.. They go through $1k iPhones and Samsung phones every couple of months due to cracked screens and have new car loans of $650 per month which they completely trash.

You created a new account just to share with us that you congregate with irresponsible people? You are aware that the world spans far wider than the circle of people you know, right? And that they're not representative of the working class of this country, right?

Yes please share your knowledge as well.

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Post by Dylan16807 »

jacobwilliamroy wrote: post #214
Dylan16807 wrote: post #126

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> I'm gonna go ahead and guess that there is no war That's not really right, because that implies that other people are using the word wrong. It's more that it's a word with a lot of uses, and you got stuck on one of them.

They are using it wrong. I think when op said "war" op meant "public health policy" which is really far away from war. It's actually the complete opposite thing.

They're not using it wrong.

Merriam-Webster, definition 2:

  2a: a state of hostility, conflict, or antagonism
  b: a struggle or competition between opposing forces or for a 
  particular end
  a class war
  a war against disease
Note that last line. The use here is so extremely valid that it's an example in the dictionary!

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Post by ars »

jedberg wrote: post #209
ars wrote: post #206

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> If the stock was at $100 that month, we paid $20. and > So it had to go up 20% to break even. But if it went up 40% you doubled your money. Are contradictory. If you paid 20% of the stock prices you made money instantly, you made a TON of money actually.

The stock is at $100. I purchase the option to buy it in the future at $100. I pay $20 for this option. I'm currently $20 in the hole, because I paid $20 for the option and got nothing. In the future, when the stock is at $120, I exercise the option and buy the stock for $100 with money borrowed from ETrade, and then sell it for $120. I've spent a total of $20, and gained $20 from the sale after paying back the loan,…

I get it not, thanks for adding the details (it was really not clear from your earlier posts).

This https://benefits.netflix.com/united-states/financial says the options currently cost 40% of the stock price, which seems very high to me.

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Post by ev1 »

Klinky wrote: post #132
seneca wrote: post #47

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Striking in order to exploit a global disaster for personal gain would be a great way for organized labor to turn many people against them for a life time. It may work in the short term, but even that is debatable. Many people would gladly see the national guard break a strike if it's between them and basic essentials. Long term, the optics of that kind of move are so damning that it would likely be a net-loss.

Is Amazon only delivering basic essentials at a fixed cost? Where is this list of basic essentials that Amazon is so charitably ensuring the prompt delivery of?

At least for me, Fresh/Primenow is effectively the _only_ way I can get food (or many other basics, like laundry detergent). I do not have a vehicle (mandatory for size/curbside pickup at any supermarket) and I am immunocompromised.

I cannot fight the crowds at Costco or carry Costco-sized bulk packages home. In the past I happily walk a mile or two each way to get groceries for the day, or ride the bus, but this is no longer feasible.

I try to tip 15-20$ or more on my usual order. With Fresh, you cannot order random unessential garbage -- just fruit/veg/food and some things like toothpaste, detergent, paracetamol. The cost is fixed at 4.99$ to 9.99$ + tip per trip.

Many items like regular Amazon packages no longer meet the Prime 2 Day guarantee and routinely are marked as "arrives 1-2 weeks" now.

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Post by kortilla »

asdff wrote: post #136
kortilla wrote: post #133

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40% of the wealth in the stock market was wiped out over the last few weeks which drastically impacts the upper middle class and rich the most. Negative returns on capital do not promote wealth inequality.

Any good financial manager would have went cash or established a short position. Even if you held, as long as you don't realize your losses you will be right back to pre crash levels in 2-3 years, just like in 2008 or any other recession. The wealthy have the capital to take advantage of the stock market, but are also insulated from the effects of downturns due to diversified financial investments and cash on hand. R…

Their net worth is down if they held. The wealthy were just as unlikely to sell out before the crash as anyone else, they don’t have A magic future prediction machine.

> The wealthy have the capital to take advantage of the stock market, but are also insulated from the effects of downturns due to diversified financial investments and cash on hand. Recessions are also when the wealthy expand their property holdings.

None of this negates the fact that the crash wiped a significant chunk of their net worth out. Either they were invested in the market (real estate, stocks, bonds, etc) and they were accumulating wealth in a Picketty fashion until they got slammed by the crash or they missed the crash because they weren’t accumulating. You can’t have it both ways.

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