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Amazon raises overtime pay for warehouse workers

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Re: Amazon raises overtime pay for warehouse workers

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I run in mostly “Fuck the man” circles, so i feel weird saying this, but amazon has consistently been a good leader for other businesses in terms of compensation. I wish they’d go to 25 an hour, as that’s the minimum I could live on

The slightly dimmer view is that amazon has consistently been a leader for precisely the same reason ford was a hundred years ago

https://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2012/03/04/the-stor...

Re: Amazon raises overtime pay for warehouse workers

#102
post #66

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> When the bailouts for so many others are happening I don't disagree that the support for, say, airlines, are bailouts, but the connotation that word has from 2008-2009 mischaracterizes what's going on right now. When this all blows over, you absolutely want airlines ready for business. Letting heavily impacted businesses fail is a recipe for a depression.

It's probably time to nationalize the airline industry entirely. Why do they enrich themselves during good times, and then we bail them out during bad times? If it's essential to economic stability and national security, and it keeps costing taxpayers a ton of money, then why even continue this facade of "private" airlines? The same excuse was used for banks during the recession. We need banks when the economy recove…

> It's probably time to nationalize the airline industry entirely.

Great call. Every time I watch a presidential press conference, my first thought is "Wow, when this all blows over, I hope these people are running the airlines."

Re: Amazon raises overtime pay for warehouse workers

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post #47

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Striking in order to exploit a global disaster for personal gain would be a great way for organized labor to turn many people against them for a life time. It may work in the short term, but even that is debatable. Many people would gladly see the national guard break a strike if it's between them and basic essentials. Long term, the optics of that kind of move are so damning that it would likely be a net-loss.

Depends on the spin. Couldn't you argue this is exploitation of the health of desperate low-paid workers, their family and their communities?

As everyone notices their packages stop arriving, comparatively few will buy into the idea that people making $17/hr are being 'exploited', especially as many people find their own working hours being reduced or eliminated.

Re: Amazon raises overtime pay for warehouse workers

#104
post #21

Glad to see this from Amazon, although I see it heading off the inevitable. Wouldn't this be the most powerful moment for employees in 'essential' services to engage in worker strikes? Is there any legal precedent for what governments would do? With all this war rhetoric thrown around, it seems a reasonable jump to declare essential workers troops on the frontline deserving of what we give other troops (free health c…

Don't get to excited on the other hand they fire workers who are ill and can't work.

E.g. you have people still trying to come into work to get paid and spreading the sickness.

Re: Amazon raises overtime pay for warehouse workers

#105
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That's a bit of a pipe dream. It's better for people to just stay at home as much as possible. Everyone can do that regardless of the availability of masks.

People need to stay home, but they also need to go to the grocery store, bank, or other essential activities. When they do, they should be wearing a mask.

I think we know that's just not going to happen in general. It's been impossible to buy masks for weeks.

Re: Amazon raises overtime pay for warehouse workers

#106
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Even for a typical right-winger like me (I'm actively fighting against unionization in my own profession) it makes total sense in context of warehouse workers and current events.

Interesting -- what's the basis for this distinction? Unions make sense for the dumb masses in low-end jobs, but not for smart professionals like yourself?

Unions bring everyone toward the average. So, it's not in my interest.

Re: Amazon raises overtime pay for warehouse workers

#107
post #21

Glad to see this from Amazon, although I see it heading off the inevitable. Wouldn't this be the most powerful moment for employees in 'essential' services to engage in worker strikes? Is there any legal precedent for what governments would do? With all this war rhetoric thrown around, it seems a reasonable jump to declare essential workers troops on the frontline deserving of what we give other troops (free health c…

Strike right now means government will chime in and force them back to work.

Re: Amazon raises overtime pay for warehouse workers

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People need to stay home, but they also need to go to the grocery store, bank, or other essential activities. When they do, they should be wearing a mask.

I think we know that's just not going to happen in general. It's been impossible to buy masks for weeks.

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Re: Amazon raises overtime pay for warehouse workers

#109
post #95
post #47

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Striking in order to exploit a global disaster for personal gain would be a great way for organized labor to turn many people against them for a life time. It may work in the short term, but even that is debatable. Many people would gladly see the national guard break a strike if it's between them and basic essentials. Long term, the optics of that kind of move are so damning that it would likely be a net-loss.

There are already enough people unemployed just over the past week that would fill those jobs in a heartbeat... I'm not sure it's understood yet what kind of devastation is unfolding with small businesses, which make up ~50% of the workforce.

This is going to have long term lasting effects that further suppress labor rates and further concentrate wealth/capital in the US. It's accelerating a problem we already had.

Re: Amazon raises overtime pay for warehouse workers

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The government would absolutely step in and stop a strike at Amazon right now, or just about any other business. Anyone trying to strike right now would be run out of town by citizens with torches as well. It might sound like a good idea in the abstract, but if you factor in the emotional state of the country, people would be up in arms and those on strike would get zero sympathy.

What would the Government do? Force people to go back to work at gunpoint? I'd love to see them try.

Italy had just declared any doctors/nurses on sick leave right now while not being sick, violate the laws and will be prosecuted.

Under emergency there isn't really rights for individual, not much.

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