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Kogito – Cloud-based business automation platform

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Re: Kogito – Cloud-based business automation platform

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Post by evacchi »

etxm wrote: post #6

You’ve got to update your marketing page with some examples besides a small diagram and some java class names. I had to get all the way to mentioning drools before I knew WTF Kogito did. BTW rules[1] is pretty good. [1] https://github.com/jruizgit/rules

We know. We are doing our best to update the docs and website, we will publish something better soon. In the meantime you can have a look at our blogs (e.g. http://blog.athico.com/) and our examples https://github.com/kiegroup/kogito-examples

this deep dive is also a nice overview of the project (also yay I am there) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBkX6v57Jbo

Re: Kogito – Cloud-based business automation platform

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Post by MrSaints »

evacchi wrote: post #4
fulafel wrote: post #3

What does it do? Business automation platform sounds very nonspecific.

Full disclosure: I work on Kogito. This is a "rethinking" of our traditional engines (Drools, jBPM, OptaPlanner) especially meant for containerized/k8s/lightweight deployment, with support for native compilation through Quarkus. Also you may want to take a look at our fresh new editors: they are available as VSCode extension, Chrome extension and stand-alone via bpmn.new and dmn.new :)

There's a relatively new one by Camunda (https://zeebe.io/) that also works quite well in cloud native environments.

Re: Kogito – Cloud-based business automation platform

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Post by gavinray »

evacchi wrote: post #4
fulafel wrote: post #3

What does it do? Business automation platform sounds very nonspecific.

Full disclosure: I work on Kogito. This is a "rethinking" of our traditional engines (Drools, jBPM, OptaPlanner) especially meant for containerized/k8s/lightweight deployment, with support for native compilation through Quarkus. Also you may want to take a look at our fresh new editors: they are available as VSCode extension, Chrome extension and stand-alone via bpmn.new and dmn.new :)

That sounds incredible.

I have no experience with Java/JVM, but found OptaPlanner online and immediately had a usecase for it.

Spent a weekend trying to get through it's documentation and example code, it was so heavy and complicated that I couldn't even get a basic concept or learning exercise written by myself. Reached out on their IRC, and it was dead.

Will definitely be taking a look at this!

Re: Kogito – Cloud-based business automation platform

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Post by pachico »

It really strikes me how many times new products fail to describe efficiently what they do. It often seems they're explaining what the project/service does to someone who already knows it rather than to someone who just landed on their website. Many Apache products lack of proper explanation, in my opinion. Some times even AWS services.

Well, it could be I'm bad at understanding their explanation. Am I the only one thinking this?

Re: Kogito – Cloud-based business automation platform

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Post by pachico »

pachico wrote: post #14

It really strikes me how many times new products fail to describe efficiently what they do. It often seems they're explaining what the project/service does to someone who already knows it rather than to someone who just landed on their website. Many Apache products lack of proper explanation, in my opinion. Some times even AWS services. Well, it could be I'm bad at understanding their explanation. Am I the only one t…

I hope you guys at Kogito take this in a constructive way. For instance, once you want to know more and you read "examples", as user, I want to fully understand what does it do! Instead, I find a link to https://github.com/kiegroup/kogito-examples/releases . I have no doubt your software is amazing, I just would like you to help me understand what it does and if it suits me. :)

Re: Kogito – Cloud-based business automation platform

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Post by mxuribe »

pachico wrote: post #14

It really strikes me how many times new products fail to describe efficiently what they do. It often seems they're explaining what the project/service does to someone who already knows it rather than to someone who just landed on their website. Many Apache products lack of proper explanation, in my opinion. Some times even AWS services. Well, it could be I'm bad at understanding their explanation. Am I the only one t…

You are not alone. Many amazing groups fail to properly communicate and describe what they do/offer.

Re: Kogito – Cloud-based business automation platform

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Post by evacchi »

pachico wrote: post #15
pachico wrote: post #14

It really strikes me how many times new products fail to describe efficiently what they do. It often seems they're explaining what the project/service does to someone who already knows it rather than to someone who just landed on their website. Many Apache products lack of proper explanation, in my opinion. Some times even AWS services. Well, it could be I'm bad at understanding their explanation. Am I the only one t…

I hope you guys at Kogito take this in a constructive way. For instance, once you want to know more and you read "examples", as user, I want to fully understand what does it do! Instead, I find a link to https://github.com/kiegroup/kogito-examples/releases . I have no doubt your software is amazing, I just would like you to help me understand what it does and if it suits me. :)

we will! We are currently working on making our documentation and getting started experience more accessible. We welcome constructive feedback like this :)

Re: Kogito – Cloud-based business automation platform

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Post by victor106 »

tappio wrote: post #5
evacchi wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Full disclosure: I work on Kogito. This is a "rethinking" of our traditional engines (Drools, jBPM, OptaPlanner) especially meant for containerized/k8s/lightweight deployment, with support for native compilation through Quarkus. Also you may want to take a look at our fresh new editors: they are available as VSCode extension, Chrome extension and stand-alone via bpmn.new and dmn.new :)

I came across Kogito some days ago as I was looking into some alternatives for our drools based engine. I'd like to build some kind of online editor for business people to manage drm rules easily. How would one go about doing something like that with Kogito?

This is the exact use case we have as well. We tried business central but it seemed too heavy and it was hard to develop a streamlined experience for the users so we had to drop it. Looking for a more lightweight solution. Will definitely check this out
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