Tesla cars are way more expensive and non essential
Total Cost of Her Covid-19 Treatment: $34,927.43
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#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
In the USA, acne and pregnancy are often disqualifying conditions. Services are often "out-of-network." So it doesn't matter if you pay the pemiums or not - you get massive surprise bills.
> In the USA, acne and pregnancy are often disqualifying conditions. This is not true. Premiums and coverage are only allowed to vary by age and location, not preexisting conditions.
you realize this is literally only as of the ACA in 2010? and if the trump administration has its way (there's a supreme court case on the docket to completely kill ACA) we're going back to that?
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#43It’s a shame that the only candidate that wants to tear down this ridiculous health system is getting the boot by the party he is aligned with.
The health system in the US is only accessible to those with money. It doesn’t have to be this way. I am not saying socialized healthcare will cure all ailments, but it would definitely be better than the current privatized system.
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#44You could buy 0.018 Tomahawk missiles for that or treat 54 people for every Tomahawk missile fired. All of the Tomahawk missiles fired since 2001 would have provided 119.000 people with free Corona treatment. I am thinking that countries with free healthcare care more about keeping their own people healthy than dropping missiles and misery on other countries people.
While your point is valid, it also illustrates how the U.S. subsidizes European entitlement programs by implicitly reducing those countries’ defense spending. If the U.S. were to cut back on defense, European countries would have to cut back on social welfare programs.
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#45Not having health insurance is not an excuse. In Germany you are required by law to have it.
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#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
> In Germany you are required by law to have it. Obama basically made this happen, but the net result was that all of healthy young adults (the kind that least needed insurance) were forced to start paying for insurance to subsidize the unhealthy older adults (or pay a penalty). So basically it was just a disguised tax targeting the young and healthy.
That’s like saying home insurance is a tax on people whose homes don’t burn down. Isn’t the whole point of insurance to have everyone (sick and healthy) pay for the few?
Insurance implies you have a choice in the matter (i.e. it is optional), but in this case (Obama-era health insurance) it wasn't optional. So why not just call it a tax, which is what it really was?
To me it sounds very similar to social security tax - the young being forced to pay to subsidize the old.
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#48Not having health insurance is not an excuse. In Germany you are required by law to have it.
In Germany, does your health insurance cost >$600 per month for 1 person if your employer or government doesn't subsidize it (for example, if you are self-employed and earning more than minimum wage from it)? Because that's the case in the US.
Yeah, I have 3 kids, and my employer pays $3k/month for our health insurance.
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#49The face values on medical bills in the US are like a bizarre joke - to a first approximation, no one ever pays them. Everyone with insurance gets insurer-negotiated "discounts" to around ~10% of the listed cost. It's tougher for people without insurance - my understanding is that you can negotiate with the entity that sent you the bill to get significant reductions, but I don't have first-hand experience doing this.…
Yes! I had a bill recently and thought the way that the list price of the services were represented was a cruel joke. It only adds to the confusion.
I feel like the insurance companies get blamed all the time but it seems like the problem is really the pricing that is set by providers.
Can’t we pass legislation governing these list prices?
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#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
> In the USA, acne and pregnancy are often disqualifying conditions. This is not true. Premiums and coverage are only allowed to vary by age and location, not preexisting conditions.
you realize this is literally only as of the ACA in 2010? and if the trump administration has its way (there's a supreme court case on the docket to completely kill ACA) we're going back to that?
What’s your point? It’s true now.